2021 NHK Trophy: Women's Short Program

[labgoat]

ISU Videos for 2021 NHK Trophy will be found in the Grand Prix Video Archive (spoiler free)
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/t...read-2003-present-ijs-only.88901/post-2820570

 

[Joekaz]

Her wrong passport maybe?

She has the same passport as Kaori does, and she got plenty of PCS. Its not just what federation you are from, but how much they are backing you.

 

[Giu]

She has the same passport as Kaori does, and she got plenty of PCS. Its not just what federation you are from, but how much they are backing you.

Right, you're not wrong. But SNAKSuyun was comparing her scores to the other new senior girls, Kaori has been competing for quite a few season now so, whether it's right or wrong, she benefits from that

 

[Joekaz]

Right, you're not wrong. But SNAKSuyun was comparing her scores to the other new senior girls, Kaori has been competing for quite a few season now so, whether it's right or wrong, she benefits from that

Thats true, but Kaori got decent PCS her first year too. She has always had the support.Look at Wakaba, she still gets no love.

 

[moonvine]

I’ve just caught up. Fell asleep last night. Literally afraid to watch the men.

 

[Giu]

Thats true, but Kaori got decent PCS her first year too. She has always had the support.Look at Wakaba, she still gets no love.

yes, I remember very well your opinion on Wakaba and I agree with you, she's not getting the recognition she deserves

 

[moonvine]

Also Jackie Wong says Daria has fractured hip. Others are saying it isn’t so serious. Let’s hope it isn’t.

 

[figureskatingandrainbows]

Daria has (from Russian fed) a torn ligament, although it was initially reported by MatchTV that she had a fractured hip. Since a fractured hip requires an MRI/x-ray and it was a very detailed description of what type of fracture, some people are wondering if it actually is a hip fracture with a torn ligament as well or just a fracture. The fracture would be far, far more serious, taking 4-6 months to fully heal with surgery. However, a torn ligament does fit with Daria having groin pain and injury before NHK. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, and hope for the best.

 

[yuumagical]

I’ve just caught up. Fell asleep last night. Literally afraid to watch the men.

Most of the men were wonderful to watch, I'm glad I saw them first.

As for the women, I hope there will be cleaner free skates and that Daria will get well soon.

 

[moonvine]

Daria has (from Russian fed) a torn ligament, although it was initially reported by MatchTV that she had a fractured hip. Since a fractured hip requires an MRI/x-ray and it was a very detailed description of what type of fracture, some people are wondering if it actually is a hip fracture with a torn ligament as well or just a fracture. The fracture would be far, far more serious, taking 4-6 months to fully heal with surgery. However, a torn ligament does fit with Daria having groin pain and injury before NHK. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, and hope for the best.

Recovery time from torn ligament is 2-3 months. For a regular person. I think it may be a season ender. Fractured hip would be much worse.

 

[SNAKSuyun]

Recovery time from torn ligament is 2-3 months. For a regular person. I think it may be a season ender. Fractured hip would be much worse.

Heartbreaking in either case for this to happen to a young girl in her senior debut season. Especially since we all already know how fierce domestic competition is in Russia. Just hope we'd be able to see her again someday, healthy and competing with joy like Mai.

 

[Joekaz]

yes, I remember very well your opinion on Wakaba and I agree with you, she's not getting the recognition she deserves

I think we generally agree about the influence of national feds in international events. But I was trying to also point out that there is alot of inter fed politics and favoritism in many countries as well.

 

[sworddance21]

wait that's Jeremy Abbott???

I had to go back and look!

 

[Skatingcat]

Poor Daria. It sounds like it is a very very painful injury, whatever it is.

Was she the russian most likely to win the olympic gold this year?

 

[figureskatingandrainbows]

Poor Daria. It sounds like it is a very very painful injury, whatever it is.

Was she the russian most likely to win the olympic gold this year?

No, it was very unlikely for her to even make the Olympic team, but she had a good shot at the Final.

 

[Zora]

So, random question - what makes Mana's PCS (even when she lands her 3A) so much lower than those of some of the other 3A new senior girls, even when the latter girls don't land their 3As? Asking for a friend.

I wonder about that as well, why is it so hard for Japanese newcomers to escape the low average PCS? I'm sure the judges often don't give them any reputation scores, because they don't know them well yet, but I also think many young Japanese skaters aren't packaged very smart. The international judges don't seem to be overly impressed by the cute style.

 

[Mauvedreamer]

Poor Daria how devastating for her! So sad for her. So delighted to see Mana skate to her potential. Been a big fan of hers. Love her SP. Rino is such a talent. Great to see Kaori winning.
Always love the Japanese audience too.

 

[rain]

More and more I feel like all of the judges in all of the disciplines need a remedial course. They gave Liu a better skating skills score than Amber Glenn. I know Liu has improved over the last couple of years, but come on.

 

[elektra blue]

Rino Matsuike est tres jolie
clena Mana is regal
oh Amber
still no armor for Kaori gladiatrix