There are even fewer named jumps, and yet we get all sorts of Sælchows and Lʌtzes called.. so I try not to get annoyed at mispronounciations (even though Matsuike today was a bit cringeworthy).I mean, it's their JOB to pronounce the names correctly. There aren't that many names. It's basic preparation. Some people are lazy or don't seem to care. It's disappointing.
... Kaori's gotten called "kay-OAR-ee" rather than "COW-ree" at how many Skate Americas now?
I apologize if I did a bad job conveying the pronunciation I meant-- obviously something like IPA is more exact but most people can't read IPA. Instead, here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_la2q8w9g the first speaker introduces herself as Kaori, correctly pronounced (the second speaker uses incorrect pronunciation).Are you trying to imply that "COW-ree" is the correct pronunciation of Kaori?
It is not really correct.
(I am not saying that "kay-OAR-ee" is correct. As you know, it also is not correct.)
I appreciate correct pronunciations from announcers, and incorrect pronunciations make me sigh.
But my general perspective is that pronouncing every name correctly is "easier said than done."
(I do not have an opinion about announcing for 2022 Four Continents. Have not watched.)
It's about having sensitivity for the skater's culture. I'm alright with Ted Barton for instance (though his pronunciation is far from perfect, he is frequently apologetic and tries to correct himself). In contrast, Chris takes a stab in the dark and tries to gloss over it. This isn't a Canadian vs British thing either, because Mark Hanretty makes a decent effort - he can probably empathise from a life spent hearing Scottish names being perpetually mispronounced by neighbours down south.I don't see it as 'butchering.' I doubt if that's their motivation either. But I grew up being taught to be gentle and polite, rather like the English. Now years later, I find that holding to certain things about myself is a kind of stubbornness that I find valuable. So when I see it in other individuals or other cultures, I find it amusing but forgivable. Of course, we can agree to disagree agreeably.
You should hear how they butchered my brother’s name at his college graduation…I was like really?This a thousand times, look up (insert language) phonology or at least ask around. I'm a language nerd and a person who is obsessed with names and naming (comes from me being a writer I suppose) and I just cannot stand being wrong with names myself
Gabriella Izzo (USA)
(On her season’s best SP score today) It’s really nice to be able to go out there and do what I’ve been training and just have a nice skate and, even though some things were a little shaky, it’s something that I can be proud of and I can move on from there.
(on the quick turnaround after Nationals) You get into a certain mode where you don’t even think about it. If you start thinking ‘oh no it was only a week’ you’re giving yourself an excuse. At the end of the day it’s my job and my responsibility and so I’m going to come in every day and push myself as hard as I can - regardless if I have a week or three months - it makes no difference in what I have to do every day.
(on returning to her spring semester on campus at Harvard University) We leave here Monday morning and we land Tuesday and I have my first day of classes on Tuesday and I will be right back into class.
Yeah, some just don't care or maybe think it has to be pronounced in their language. That's why i can't listen most of french journalists pronounce bantu and west african names. They really have a problem with names that start with M or N and that have a consonant after. For example they KNOW that Mbappé is pronounced Bappé not M-bappé. The real pronunciation is more like Mmmbappé but the silent m is difficult to pronounce so Bappé is acceptable. But they don't even say that. Same with N'Golo Kanté. It's Golo but they say N-Golo. Again, they KNOW the real pronounciation.It's about having sensitivity for the skater's culture. I'm alright with Ted Barton for instance (though his pronunciation is far from perfect, he is frequently apologetic and tries to correct himself). In contrast, Chris takes a stab in the dark and tries to gloss over it. This isn't a Canadian vs British thing either, because Mark Hanretty makes a decent effort - he can probably empathise from a life spent hearing Scottish names being perpetually mispronounced by neighbours down south.
To make an analogy that might be more understandable for you - it's a bit like misgendering a trans or non-binary person. Mistakes are understandable, repeated insistence on using the wrong pronouns is disrespectful.