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2022 Olympics Team Event: General Info

Spiralgraph

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I certainly didn't expect this news when I signed on the Internet today. Although on second thought it's not that much of a surprise. I hope it gets sorted out correctly and as quickly as possible. If it is Kamilla since she is a minor she may not have even known she was taking a banned substance. What a mess indeed.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

Record Breaker
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Jan 25, 2013
I am reading so many reports and allegations and yes, this is rapidly getting very messy. Figure skating has had such a tarnished image and history already in the Olympics and this is shaping up to be another scandalous chapter added. I don’t agree with the idea of stripping medals from athletes, usually minors who have no knowledge, who tested positive when these sins are being committed by adults who should know better. There has to be a way to punish the adults who are actually at fault without shattering these athletes’ hard work and dreams.

Very messy for figure skating indeed. And if it's Russia that would just be so disappointing (albeit unsurprising) because they've literally had their name changed the last 3 Olympics because of doping, and most of their athletes have been clean.

I suppose we were due for a figure skating scandal, but not this way. :rolleye:
 

Stephine

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Jan 30, 2022
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Germany
I just read 5 minutes ago that Kamilla is not allowed to skate in the womens event… maybe it ist still a rumor?
 

TontoK

Hot Tonto
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This entire situation is awful.

Bad for the Olympics, bad for Kamilla and the Russian team, and bad for figure skating.

The ISU/IOC need to get hold of this story NOW. Whatever it is, get the facts out, because the speculation is worse. The longer this goes unaddressed, the wilder the gossip, the speculation about coverups, the suspicions cast on others. This is quickly spiraling out of control.

And once the story is out, let the chips fall where they may.
 

cheerknithanson

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Jul 13, 2014
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Until there is an official IOC report, the rest is gossip/speculation.

This is starting to get messy and falling on Valieva which is unfair and can actually disrupt her and the other team Russia skaters from skating their best in the individual.
Agreed. No official statement has come out. But sometimes I worry cause sometimes insiders are right....
 

AquaSeas

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Nov 24, 2007
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Canada
If it is indeed Russia, it is very odd because all the Russian team members competed in both the short and the long programs, and nobody failed any drug tests after the short program.

The identity of the team is just rumor so far.

I hope no one took an over the counter drug for symptoms of COVID or other disease. In fact if I were to guess, that would be what I think might have happened. Elena Berezhnaya & partner were suspended for a season for taking a cold remedy once.

I am guessing it was not any of the men, since they were allowed to skate in the SP, except of course, Vinnie did not skate. I hope it is not poor Vinnie. He has had enough bad luck.

In fact, looking at the scoreboard, surely the whole team should only lose the points of the one person/couple who failed the drug test. So at most, if it is Russia, the most it should lose is 20 points, for a score of 54 points, and that still is ahead of Canada.

And if it is Vinnie, the US would lose 8 points, for a score of 57, still ahead of Canada.

So clearly, this is All very puzzling.
I believe that in addition to ROC losing Kamila’s 20 points, each of the other teams in the final would gain 2 points as each female skater would now place one position higher in each segment after Kamila’s results were removed.

Thus the final points would be: USA 67 (gold), JAPAN 65 (silver) CANADA 55 (bronze), ROC 54 (4th) and CHINA 52 (5th).

🤷🏻‍♀️
 

Corwin

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glacial87

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Feb 24, 2011
How convenient this positive test result turned up after ROC couldn't replace Kami anymore. The result is from 12/2021.
 

Martins123

Rinkside
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Dec 24, 2021
:(( this is very sad. I really hope that this doesn't involve any under 18s. If this does relate to Valieva (obvs we don't know), she is just 15 and probably unknowing/pressurised - shame on the adults involved who should have protected her. I really hope none of the athletes get hate because almost certainly even if they weren't explicitly pressurised, the Russian federation have created a very pressurising environment. A really sad shadow cast over this Olympics
 

Artemisa

Final Flight
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Sep 15, 2017
If I believed in conspiracy I would say that is one ... but let's analyze the facts:

_ Any women in the ROC team would be first, no matter who would be chosen ... so why risk it?
_ ROC is under a magnifying glass for doping ... they aren't stupid .. to put an athlete with doping in the team event when they have other 2 for the win.. doesn't make sense.
_ Eteri doesn't care who wins .. can be anna, sasha, kamila... why risk Kamila
_ Kamila already had the judges and everyone on her side .. why make an stupid decision
_ Eteri wouldn't risk her reputation for anyone ... she has the gold medal in the team who cares about her name

When I read the news I thought maybe Nikita or Galliamov ... one because of his back pain (and it easy to take something for the pain) and the other because he looked exhausted ... I never thought about the girls or mark ( he wouldn't risk his title at the europeans and he is at the begining of a lot)

So sorry but I don't believe this .. I think it's more to ruin the Eteri's team
 

Maribelle

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Jan 13, 2007
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United-States
I was thinking before the Olympics that Kamila should be very careful about who she is around because there are people who would be jealous of her accomplishments. It reminds me a bit of Tonya-Nancy scandal and I think it could be a sabatoge attempt.
 

Skater Boy

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Feb 24, 2012
Without speculating is it too late to sub Liza in if for whatever reason one of three ladies for russia can't skate in the individual event.
 
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