2022 Olympics: Women's Short Program

[Piett]

I always find myself rooting for Trusova even though I don't like her skating that much. But I'm impressed how she tries to make up for her shortcomings by taking even more risks instead of playing it safe. Maybe some day it pays off. Maybe thursday is that day.

 

[lariko]

Its really bad...but I think 2014 was the worst.

I have only 2018 one to compare to, and it is a stark contrast. For me, it can’t be any worse and it was the worst since men’s short.

 

[lariko]

I always find myself rooting for Trusova even though I don't like her skating that much. But I'm impressed how she tries to make up for her shortcomings by taking even more risks instead of playing it safe. Maybe some day it pays off. Maybe thursday is that day.

And even if it doesn’t, I’ll still root for her.

I will also insist that JSF’s decision to send Kawabe to Olympics and Worlds is fair and correct one. And I would rejoice if they don’t take the worlds from her to give to someone else, because that kind of behaviour is what I dislike about RusFed.

 

[eterialskating]

I'd rather watch Kaori any day. She is way more artistic than any of the Russians. "Insult' - that's a laugh.

I can sense the bitterness and disappoinment. I understand how the Russian dominance must be soul crushing for some but I never realize that some people would go so far and make alternate realities and facts. I'm pretty sure convincing yourself Kaori is an artistic goddess and a gifted performer is a logical idea. Truly rare talents don't need years of shameless promotions to be notice. She never had it in the first place.

 

[whatif]

Sakomoto is a strong all-around skater, who is also very consistent, and rightfully in a real contention to win gold at this Olympics. But calling her more artistic than any other skater or any other Russian skater is a stretch.

 

[viennaskater]

Sakomoto is a strong all-around skater, who is also very consistent, and rightfully in a real contention to win gold at this Olympics. But calling her more artistic than any other skater or any other Russian skater is a stretch.

I think Elizaveta Tuktamesheva (Russian!) IS artistic but not these young ones - it's all about the jumps. I never said Kaori was more artistic than any other skater.

 

[eterialskating]

Sakomoto is a strong all-around skater, who is also very consistent, and rightfully in a real contention to win gold at this Olympics. But calling her more artistic than any other skater or any other Russian skater is a stretch.

The lack of objectivity and blatant partisanship is even worst and a true reflection of the mentality of these people. These Russian haters are so pathetic their bias and hate are so transparent.

 

[lariko]

It would be fair because Trusova's 3a appeared to only be around 140-160 degrees around, while Young's looked to be over the 180 degree mark.

After watching figure skating for 4 years, i would only accept this call from an AI with an actual measurement, not from a human, be it a random stranger on the internet or my mom or tech panel. But since tech panel is the specialized body consisting of 3 people with technology at their fingertips, their call for me is the most accurate, because the last thing I want is to descend into paranoia. I love Trusova, and her being 4th or 6th makes zero difference to me. I also love Young You and tbh, I love her more than Higuchi, because I saw You and Trusova all the way from the juniors into seniors, saw them both twice live, and have absolutely no connection to Higuchi. That’s all subjective, however.

You know who actually disgusted me by manipulating the scores after the results were announced? Tutberidze when she bothered with taking 1 point away on a questionable technicality from a girl who wasn’t even qualifying for seniors, so that Scherbakova could be ahead simply for visibility. After short! In RusNats!

I am tired of the partisan scoring, and I want to eliminate subjective component of PCSs an GoE as much as possible from scoring and use objective measurements to the max. I want to see the ranking to be determined by the Al. I want it to be all over the place, because the figure skaters are all over the place, while the current judging system tries to prop the same ones as always-winners.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Check this out from Jackie Wong



Can you imagine! The Swedish Olympic Committee wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

Definitely looking forward to Josefin, accidental 3A or not!

Did someone catch this on video? I would really like to see the accidental 3A!

 

[CoyoteChris]

The lack of objectivity and blatant partisanship is even worst and a true reflection of the mentality of these people. These Russian haters are so pathetic their bias and hate are so transparent.

Said the people who ran the Sochi Pee lab! And cant wear their own jackets!

 

[Piett]

I think Elizaveta Tuktamesheva (Russian!) IS artistic but not these young ones - it's all about the jumps. I never said Kaori was more artistic than any other skater.

Liza is extremely charismatic and confident but I'm not so sure if I would call her artistic. She is pretty stiff and her transitions are usually very basic.

 

[jenaj]

I watched the final group last night. If I were scoring Sasha, I would give her mostly 7s in PCS--29/30. She should be bunched with the 6/7/8 skaters at 69/70.

 

[Joekaz]

Liza is extremely charismatic and confident but I'm not so sure if I would call her artistic. She is pretty stiff and her transitions are usually very basic.

That's true, but no one is more stiff than Kaori. Lol

 

[Joekaz]

One thing you can give the Russian Federation credit for over the Japanese Federation; it support ALL their skaters at competitions, not just their favorite.

 

[cisum88note]

I watched the final group last night. If I were scoring Sasha, I would give her mostly 7s in PCS--29/30. She should be bunched with the 6/7/8 skaters at 69/70.

Ironically ISU uses her skating an an example of PCS at 4-5. And yet...

 

[Skater Boy]

Well it is anyone's medal. No one is ahead like ten points. I hope everyone is healthy and Covid free. It is still a Japan and Russia battle. All but Kaori underskated imho. I thought I would like Wakaba much more but found her disappointing. I still have no idea why Trusova is going for the 3A. It may cost her a medal.

I agree with Valieva in first and I am fine with Anna in second and Kaori in third. It is too close to call. Kaori could win it all. She is consistent. And undoubtedly all the Russian girls are feeling the pressure especially KV.

No one has the ultimate program and no one so far technically has ruled clearly.

Shout out to the three American ladies. Liu especially could climb on the podium still. And those critics who made fun Chen lost to the Canadian girl in the team even well all three US ladies clearly beat the Canadian woman. A few years ago I thought it would be a battle betwee Valieva and LIu. Might still happen? Kaori is looking very good.

Well....this event sucked. Lots of falls, I can't really say anyone skated their best. Americans will be lucky to break top 10. Ugh.

 

[Amei]

Well it is anyone's medal. No one is ahead like ten points. I hope everyone is healthy and Covid free. It is still a Japan and Russia battle. All but Kaori underskated imho. I thought I would like Wakaba much more but found her disappointing. I still have no idea why Trusova is going for the 3A. It may cost her a medal.

I agree with Valieva in first and I am fine with Anna in second and Kaori in third. It is too close to call. Kaori could win it all. She is consistent. And undoubtedly all the Russian girls are feeling the pressure especially KV.

No one has the ultimate program and no one so far technically has ruled clearly.

Its clearly the Russians medals to lose, Kaori's FS BV is under 62 points based on the team event, Shcherbakova's FS BV from Europeans is the lowest of the 3 Russians if she mirrors Europeans she has a 10 point BV advantage on Kaori (and that was with only 1 quad), Valieva has about 14 and Trusova 20 points. So all 3 Russians would need multiple mistakes to really put the medals at risk

 

[SNAKSuyun]

The Kaori hate amuses me especially when Kaori fans are never against artistic skaters getting better treatment in PCS. Heck, I was/am totally fine with Alena, Anna and Kamila scoring higher than her on PCS (although I find Kamila's advantage a little bit preposterous). When DID Kaori ever score higher PCS than the Russians anyway? Unless y'all legitimately think she's less artistic than Sasha? Y'all makng it sound like she's out there outscoring everyone in PCS when the only one she's currently outscoring at the olys that she probably shouldn't is Wakaba (and I'd be in favor of 37 PCS Wakaba, too, but that's not my or Kaori's decision to make).

One last thing: some people watch the sport for the Russians. Others watch it for people like Kaori Sakamoto. I didn't buy my skates and go to all the FS competitions because I wanted to see quads, I am here because I love people who spark joy and are leaving all that they are on the ice. They're here because they're doing what they love and sharing that love with the world. That's what inspires me.

 

[CoyoteChris]

One thing you can give the Russians credit for over the Japanese; they support ALL their skaters at competitions, not just their favorite.

Of course! Unbridled Nationalism. My country right or wrong. Arrogance. And yet, with all the Japanese skaters I sit with at comps, they seem to support not only all their own skaters, but many others as well. How many people here agree with Joekaz that the Japanese only support their fav skaters? Anyone? Speak up now!

 

[lariko]

The Kaori hate amuses me especially when Kaori fans are never against artistic skaters getting better treatment in PCS. Heck, I was/am totally fine with Alena, Anna and Kamila scoring higher than her on PCS (although I find Kamila's advantage a little bit preposterous). When DID Kaori ever score higher PCS than the Russians anyway? Unless y'all legitimately think she's less artistic than Sasha? Y'all makng it sound like she's out there outscoring everyone in PCS when the only one she's currently outscoring at the olys that she probably shouldn't is Wakaba (and I'd be in favor of 37 PCS Wakaba, too, but that's not my or Kaori's decision to make).

One last thing: some people watch the sport for the Russians. Others watch it for people like Kaori Sakamoto. I didn't buy my skates and go to all the FS competitions because I wanted to see quads, I am here because I love people who spark joy and are leaving all that they are on the ice. They're here because they're doing what they love and sharing that love with the world. That's what inspires me.

I like different skaters from different nations. I watch women for both Trusova and Sakomoto. Like, the podium that would have me running up and down shouting my happiness to the world tomorrow would consist of Sakomoto, Trusova and You. Why I am like that, I dunno, but I equally don’t like Higuchi and Scherbakova. Go figure.