2022 Russian Junior Nationals - Junior Women's FS

[lariko]

Hmmm, but Adelia didn't have a quad before Nationals, she's on a bit different level now..

I think her first attempt was in Russian Cup, just two footed?

 

[Scott512]

I am for it, Russian cup finals can serve for that, but it's too close to junior worlds. I think they will send three Sofias at the end.

Probably.

When is the Russian cup final? February?

 

[Jumping_Bean]

When is the Russian cup final? February?

From the 23rd to 27th of February, finishing 8 days before the start of the Junior World Championships.

 

[Scott512]

From the 23rd to 27th of February, finishing 8 days before the start of the Junior World Championships.

Thanks.

The timing is interesting very interesting

 

[krispy]

Hmmm, but Adelia didn't have a quad before Nationals, she's on a bit different level now..

She had a quad toe in the jpg but lost to Muravieva

 

[RatedPG]

Hmmm, but Adelia didn't have a quad before Nationals, she's on a bit different level now..

Adeliya had a 4T in the junior Grand Prix circuit and even landed it. She landed 4Lo at Russian Cup event prior to Nationals. By the way, Sofia M. beat her at Junior event due to PCS, despite no ultra-c element. Also, she beat her at Russian Cup event despite falling on her 4S, due to Adeliya skating a bad short program. Adeliya is experimenting with different quads and the 4Lo was successful, until this event.

 

[RatedPG]

I am for it, Russian cup finals can serve for that, but it's too close to junior worlds. I think they will send three Sofias at the end.

No. Please no skate off. The top three are the best when you incorporate their head to head records. They skated off at Junior Grand Prix circuit, Russian Cup series, Senior Nationals and Junior Nationals. How many more competitions and skate offs are necessary? Leave 3S, as is

 

[lariko]

No. Please no skate off. The top three are the best when you incorporate their head to head records. They skated off at Junior Grand Prix circuit, Russian Cup series, Senior Nationals and Junior Nationals. How many more competitions and skate offs are necessary? Leave 3S, as is

Three Sofias to Sofia, yes! We have to have this. Three different schools, three 3A and quad capable skaters. It’s great on every level. In no way this means that Adelia Petrosyan is not a wonderful skater. Just the other three have a bit better balanced set of jumps and components for a little longer.

 

[RatedPG]

Three Sofias to Sofia, yes! We have to have this. Three different schools, three 3A and quad capable skaters. It’s great on every level. In no way this means that Adelia Petrosyan is not a wonderful skater. Just the other three have a bit better balanced set of jumps and components for a little longer.

100% agree with your comment. Those three are the ones with 3A, each camp is represented.

 

[anonymoose_au]

I am for it, Russian cup finals can serve for that, but it's too close to junior worlds.

Well they're making the poor boys do it, so why not? What's good for the goose and all that.

 

[princecharming]

I do feel the fed is reluctant and blurry about Adeliia which puts a pressure on her and that was why she was insecure today. As I said, the scores for the free of Adeliia and Sofia M. should be about the same and Adeliia should have been in much bigger lead from the SP relatively to M., but the fed obviously decided differently. Plushy's main concern should be to put his whole school together, not receiving undeserved bonuses by the fed.

Sorry but you are wrong, Adeliia defintely should not be scoring the same in PCS as anyone from Plushenko. Eteri's junior girls simply don't have the presentation and elegance of those from Angels of Plushenko.

 

[princecharming]

Three Sofias to Sofia, yes! We have to have this. Three different schools, three 3A and quad capable skaters. It’s great on every level. In no way this means that Adelia Petrosyan is not a wonderful skater. Just the other three have a bit better balanced set of jumps and components for a little longer.

Aren't most of these skaters returning to the JGP next year? So they still have time. It's not the end of the world.

 

[lariko]

Aren't most of these skaters returning to the JGP next year? So they still have time. It's not the end of the world.

Precisely. So, the skate-offs among both girls and boys serves no point, because literally, 3 Sofias is a great comp, and Lutfullin, Yablokov and Kovalev is a great comp. and the purpose of the Cup of Russia is to give the other skaters the stage and ability to make their bid for the next year… pressing it from the top with the skaters who already numerous times proved themselves strong performers is nuts.

 

[anonymoose_au]

the purpose of the Cup of Russia is to give the other skaters the stage and ability to make their bid for the next year…

Alas not so much anymore. Ever since it was used to send Zhenya Med to Worlds over Liza T in 2019. That opened a can of worms. Now whenever someone either the fans don't like or the Fed don't like podiums at Nats or has a better season than a favourite the call can be made "Have a skate-off at Russian Cup Final!"

Of course the fans opinion has no weight at all in the decision, but the Fed can declare a skate-off, even if it's a stupid idea and the skaters have to do it.

The rumour mill is running over time that Sofia M will have to skate at RCF to cement her place on the Junior Worlds Team. I'm not sure if this is wishful thinking or not though.

 

[RatedPG]

Aren't most of these skaters returning to the JGP next year? So they still have time. It's not the end of the world.

No. Sofia M., Sofia S. and Adeliya all are eligible for SGP next year. So, it matters. These three lost their first season of JGP due to pandemic.

 

[princecharming]

No. Sofia M., Sofia S. and Adeliya all are eligible for SGP next year. So, it matters. These three lost their first season of JGP due to pandemic.

Unfortunate.

Honestly I think the 3 Sofias going to worlds is justified and they need to stop adding extra pressure.

 

[flanker]

Sorry but you are wrong, Adeliia defintely should not be scoring the same in PCS as anyone from Plushenko. Eteri's junior girls simply don't have the presentation and elegance of those from Angels of Plushenko.

That's, well, interesting point of view

 

[flanker]

Well they're making the poor boys do it, so why not? What's good for the goose and all that.

I wouldn't talk about it but it was Plushenko himself who demanded a shootout between Anna and Liza and very loudly, so he should taste his own medicine.

 

[anonymoose_au]

I wouldn't talk about it but it was Plushenko himself who demanded a shootout between Anna and Liza and very loudly, so he should taste his own medicine.

And everyone thought it was a damn stupid idea, which it was.

But now, all of sudden, a "Skate off" is just what we need to decide who should go to Junior Worlds.

Hmmm, can't imagine why the change of opinion. Truly mysterious...

 

[flanker]

And everyone thought it was a damn stupid idea, which it was.

But now, all of sudden, a "Skate off" is just what we need to decide who should go to Junior Worlds.

Hmmm, can't imagine why the change of opinion. Truly mysterious...

Everyone? There were quite numerous supporters of that, just loon into post nationals "thoughts" thread, not to mention the insane level of hate aimed at Anna, in fact so high that even Daniel Grassl defended her (and it's not like this forum was free of it).