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2023-24 Russian Nationals Pairs Free Skate

Jumping_Bean

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Chance of lace explosion is probably much lower with women. I wouldnt really expect to see any with tape in general.
I've not noticed much taping with the men either to be honest, but then again most male skaters wear long trousers so the tape could just be hidden in a lot of cases. With the women's costumes, it's usually much less easy to hide.
 

Pairluv

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Will Yulia stay on her feet?
Mishina vs Boikova and Galliamov vs Kozlovski. It doesn't get better than this in pair skating. Moskvina vs Tutberidze. The ego is :popcorn:
 

Selivanovp

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Obviously, but most single skaters don't tape either. In particular, the Japanese skaters, who need a lot of ankle mobility to facilitate their landings & generate speed usually only use tape if their boots are breaking down. I've for example never seen Kaori with taped boots.
Well, as I've said, skaters are divided on those who tape and those who's not yet. It's not just laces, sometimes laces hooks break also (not sure how it's called in English). Can you skate without it? Of course you can, some do their entire career, but the risk of a failure in a competition is yours.
 

Mathematician

Ecclesiastes 7:1-2 / KJV
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I'm thinking about this now and just one women who had laces problem comes to mind. And quite a few men (dancers, singles, pair skaters, whatever). Although maybe it's a coincidence.
Men are heavier and generate way more force, due to speed, jumping height... basically everything. It makes sense.
 

anonymoose_au

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I understand not allowing a restart but I dont understand the time deduction. Can someone explain the point?
I guess it's so a skater doesn't pretend to have an issue so they can regroup after a bad element I guess? I'm not super sure if that would actually have any benefit since you'd stop skating and start cooling down, but maybe that's why?
 

Selivanovp

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I guess it's so a skater doesn't pretend to have an issue so they can regroup after a bad element I guess? I'm not super sure if that would actually have any benefit since you'd stop skating and start cooling down, but maybe that's why?
It's in the rule book. Interruption of a program from 10 to 20s is a -1 deduction, 20 to 30 is -2, 30 to 40s is -3, above 40 is -4, and if you're using a 3min break to fix your equipment it's -5.
 

anonymoose_au

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I've not noticed much taping with the men either to be honest
Poor Junwhan has/had to do it all the time, he breaks down skates at a ridiculous rate!

Also I believe one of the Japanese men is using boots that are basically tape now!
 

Jumping_Bean

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It's in the rule book. Interruption of a program from 10 to 20s is a -1 deduction, 20 to 30 is -2, 30 to 40s is -3, above 40 is -4, and if you're using a 3min break to fix your equipment it's -5.
People aren't questioning how the rule is applied, they are questioning why the rule even exists in the first place. 😬
 

anonymoose_au

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Well that was exciting! Although their TES looked to be lower than the current leaders...at least until the Box disappeared.

We shall see!
 

Mathematician

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I guess it's so a skater doesn't pretend to have an issue so they can regroup after a bad element I guess? I'm not super sure if that would actually have any benefit since you'd stop skating and start cooling down, but maybe that's why?
I think the likelihood of that helping after a failed jump with no restart is too low for it to be an efficient rule. 99% of the time its just going to ruin a skate over luck.
 
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