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Thank you so much for catch up. Also, would love a sneak peak. I like them separately, curious to see them together.
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Boikova and Kozlovskii announced Kill Bill for a program...
I'm way too busy to write a long post post on this now, but someday I'm going to write a long post on how Russian figure skating is suffocating itself by overreliance on inhouse choreographers who are subservient to the coach and choreograph for all that coaches students.
I'm way too busy to write a long post post on this now, but someday I'm going to write a long post on how Russian figure skating is suffocating itself by overreliance on inhouse choreographers who are subservient to the coach and choreograph for all that coaches students.
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Daniil Butenko and his partner (no idea who is she) performed the 5th twist lift for the first time 
They are trained by Filipp Tarasov.
UPD: Partner - Shi Yumei from China, 12 y.o.
They are trained by Filipp Tarasov.
UPD: Partner - Shi Yumei from China, 12 y.o.
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They say he is skating with Khalitova, but the skater in the video is a Chinese girl.
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I've already fixed it.
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I think this SP is a good choice for them.
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Google Translation from RusFed interview
-- Both programs for Veronika Merenkova and Danil Galimov were changed. Tell us about these productions?
-- The guys were given new programs. The short one is "Get Ready for This - 2 Unlimited" on the theme of sports, including basketball and cheerleading. We tried to emphasize this theme in the guys' costumes. We had to think about the costumes so that they weren't exactly basketball-themed, but at the same time everyone would understand them. By the way, the numbers on the guys' sweaters are their birthdays.
I suggested the music for the program, the concept was developed together with our choreographer Sofia Evdokimova, it was mostly her idea. The program turned out to be perky, cheerful, and suits the guys. I think the audience and judges should like it.
The free program is different in mood and style - "Hey You - Pink Floyd". When the guys first came out in costumes at the training in Novogorsk, it looked a little different, more interesting. It seems to me that they even looked more mature in it. But that's how it should be.
Veronica and Danil are growing up, and I like that their new programs are completely different from each other and differ from those they skated before. Programs should show different sides of athletes, so that they can express both serious and cheerful music, be universal. I think Veronica and Danil have succeeded in this at their level.
-- Has the content of the programs changed?
-- We made the jumping content more difficult. The guys jumped these jumps, but I often insured myself, counting on a cleaner execution. This year we decided to try skating with more difficult jumps and see how the guys would cope with it. We can always make it easier in the opposite direction.
To be specific, this season we are planning to do 3F and 3S+2A+2A in the free program, before we did 3S and 2T+2A+2A. Everything else is the same in terms of elements. We are trying to cope with what we have. Throws 3Lo and 3F are the most expensive for us. Of course, I am of the opinion that all elements in the program should be practiced and performed cleanly, and then become more complex. But you still have to try, competitions and training are not the same thing.
-- Veronica and Danil are motivated, hard-working guys, it’s obvious.
-- They try very hard. Not everything always works out, but that's like everyone else. Sometimes you have to go through difficult moments. But they are goal-oriented.
-- The second pair is Yulia Filimonova and Ilya Pylnev. They are participating in the skates for the first time.
-- Yulia and Ilya have been skating together for the second season. They competed a little in the past, but there were injuries and something else. They didn't skate very well at the Russian Senior Championship. But that was their first season together, and they were still skating. Over the summer, the guys have become more consistent. Their programs are good. Sonya Evdokimova choreographed them. The guys are emotional, their programs are characterful, with roles. They cope with it.
-- How long have they been skating with you?
-- Second season. Ilya is from the city of Volzhsky in the Volgograd region. He was involved in single skating there for seven years, then moved to Sochi with his parents. He trained with Vladimir Melehin, Alexey Urmanov. He switched to pair skating. Before pairing up with Yulia, he skated with another partner.
Yulia is from Moscow, she started figure skating in Mytishchi with different coaches. At the end of 2020, she moved to Sochi to Alexey Urmanov, and a year and a half later, she switched from singles to pairs.
-- At one time you were a member of the International Skating Union ( ISU) Athletes' Commission , and your comments on various topics were clear and understandable. In this regard, a question: ISU raised the age in junior pair skating for partners to 23 years. In your opinion, how will this affect junior pair skating?
-- It's hard to say now what this will lead to. Here in Russia, everything has remained the same. I already said that I don't agree with raising the age. 23 is no longer a junior. And if duets compete where one partner is 23, and in the other pair the boys are 16-17, how can they be compared? This is a huge difference that is immediately visible. Some are ready for the adult level, while others are juniors.
The reasons for raising the age are clear. Firstly, to preserve more junior pairs - the partner has to move up to seniors by age, and the girl still has to skate as a junior, which is why the pair breaks up. Secondly, safety. Pair skating is a complex sport, and in theory, with the adopted changes, athletes can compete longer in juniors, there are simpler elements, one less lift, which gives the opportunity to develop skills and mastery. But it seems to me that the previous system was also correct.
-- Then, logically, if the pairs are longer in juniors, then in order to avoid stagnation, the sport should become more difficult to increase interest, but this is not happening.
-- Because the cost of quadruple emissions, twists is small, and the risk is big. And it is not known when this will change. Everyone is waiting for the cost of ultra-c to be increased, so that it will be profitable to do it, otherwise the risk is not justified. And the cost will be increased when they start making these elements, like, you show that you make these elements, and we will increase the cost. It turns out to be a vicious circle. How to break out of it? Only to make ultra-c no matter what.
-- You've probably seen the video where Daniil Butenko and a Chinese figure skater perform a quintuple twist. What is the likelihood that this element will be performed at competitions?
-- My opinion is that at the moment the video of the quintuple twist is a demonstration that it is possible. It looks impressive. But from the point of view of the existing rules in junior pair skating, the prospects are difficult to predict.
The ISU adopted an amendment that in junior pair skating the age difference between partners should not exceed 7 years. For the skaters who showed a quintuple twist, it is greater: the partner is 21, the partner is 12.
Little girls at this age perform ultra-c elements, but what will happen when they start growing up and taking shape? Their height and weight will change.
In pair skating, it is always very difficult to select partners based on anthropometric data, psychological compatibility, and it is no secret that at the time of puberty, many junior pairs often break up - the partner has grown up, is no longer suitable for her partner, or something else. So it is difficult to make predictions at the moment. And if we ask the question, in principle, will there be a quintuple twist in the programs? Then, first of all, this element needs to be assigned a base value so that it can be performed in competitions.
Interview by Olga Ermolina
Test skates 2024 Juniors - Coach Fedor Klimov about his pairs – Veronika Merenkova – Danila Galimov and Yulia Filimonova – Ilya Pylnev
Coach Fedor Klimov, representing Krasnodar Region, led two pairs in junior test skates. Veronika Merenkova and Danil Galimov won the Junior Russian Grand Prix Final last season, were prize winners at the Russian stage of the series, and other competitions. Yulia Filimonova and Ilya Pylnev have been skating as a duet for the second season, and their path to big-time sports is just beginning. Olympic champion, silver medalist of the 2014 Sochi Games, coach Fedor Klimov spoke about his students, new programs, quintuple twists, and raising the age limit in junior pair skating.-- Both programs for Veronika Merenkova and Danil Galimov were changed. Tell us about these productions?
-- The guys were given new programs. The short one is "Get Ready for This - 2 Unlimited" on the theme of sports, including basketball and cheerleading. We tried to emphasize this theme in the guys' costumes. We had to think about the costumes so that they weren't exactly basketball-themed, but at the same time everyone would understand them. By the way, the numbers on the guys' sweaters are their birthdays.
I suggested the music for the program, the concept was developed together with our choreographer Sofia Evdokimova, it was mostly her idea. The program turned out to be perky, cheerful, and suits the guys. I think the audience and judges should like it.
The free program is different in mood and style - "Hey You - Pink Floyd". When the guys first came out in costumes at the training in Novogorsk, it looked a little different, more interesting. It seems to me that they even looked more mature in it. But that's how it should be.
Veronica and Danil are growing up, and I like that their new programs are completely different from each other and differ from those they skated before. Programs should show different sides of athletes, so that they can express both serious and cheerful music, be universal. I think Veronica and Danil have succeeded in this at their level.
-- Has the content of the programs changed?
-- We made the jumping content more difficult. The guys jumped these jumps, but I often insured myself, counting on a cleaner execution. This year we decided to try skating with more difficult jumps and see how the guys would cope with it. We can always make it easier in the opposite direction.
To be specific, this season we are planning to do 3F and 3S+2A+2A in the free program, before we did 3S and 2T+2A+2A. Everything else is the same in terms of elements. We are trying to cope with what we have. Throws 3Lo and 3F are the most expensive for us. Of course, I am of the opinion that all elements in the program should be practiced and performed cleanly, and then become more complex. But you still have to try, competitions and training are not the same thing.
-- Veronica and Danil are motivated, hard-working guys, it’s obvious.
-- They try very hard. Not everything always works out, but that's like everyone else. Sometimes you have to go through difficult moments. But they are goal-oriented.
-- The second pair is Yulia Filimonova and Ilya Pylnev. They are participating in the skates for the first time.
-- Yulia and Ilya have been skating together for the second season. They competed a little in the past, but there were injuries and something else. They didn't skate very well at the Russian Senior Championship. But that was their first season together, and they were still skating. Over the summer, the guys have become more consistent. Their programs are good. Sonya Evdokimova choreographed them. The guys are emotional, their programs are characterful, with roles. They cope with it.
-- How long have they been skating with you?
-- Second season. Ilya is from the city of Volzhsky in the Volgograd region. He was involved in single skating there for seven years, then moved to Sochi with his parents. He trained with Vladimir Melehin, Alexey Urmanov. He switched to pair skating. Before pairing up with Yulia, he skated with another partner.
Yulia is from Moscow, she started figure skating in Mytishchi with different coaches. At the end of 2020, she moved to Sochi to Alexey Urmanov, and a year and a half later, she switched from singles to pairs.
-- At one time you were a member of the International Skating Union ( ISU) Athletes' Commission , and your comments on various topics were clear and understandable. In this regard, a question: ISU raised the age in junior pair skating for partners to 23 years. In your opinion, how will this affect junior pair skating?
-- It's hard to say now what this will lead to. Here in Russia, everything has remained the same. I already said that I don't agree with raising the age. 23 is no longer a junior. And if duets compete where one partner is 23, and in the other pair the boys are 16-17, how can they be compared? This is a huge difference that is immediately visible. Some are ready for the adult level, while others are juniors.
The reasons for raising the age are clear. Firstly, to preserve more junior pairs - the partner has to move up to seniors by age, and the girl still has to skate as a junior, which is why the pair breaks up. Secondly, safety. Pair skating is a complex sport, and in theory, with the adopted changes, athletes can compete longer in juniors, there are simpler elements, one less lift, which gives the opportunity to develop skills and mastery. But it seems to me that the previous system was also correct.
-- Then, logically, if the pairs are longer in juniors, then in order to avoid stagnation, the sport should become more difficult to increase interest, but this is not happening.
-- Because the cost of quadruple emissions, twists is small, and the risk is big. And it is not known when this will change. Everyone is waiting for the cost of ultra-c to be increased, so that it will be profitable to do it, otherwise the risk is not justified. And the cost will be increased when they start making these elements, like, you show that you make these elements, and we will increase the cost. It turns out to be a vicious circle. How to break out of it? Only to make ultra-c no matter what.
-- You've probably seen the video where Daniil Butenko and a Chinese figure skater perform a quintuple twist. What is the likelihood that this element will be performed at competitions?
-- My opinion is that at the moment the video of the quintuple twist is a demonstration that it is possible. It looks impressive. But from the point of view of the existing rules in junior pair skating, the prospects are difficult to predict.
The ISU adopted an amendment that in junior pair skating the age difference between partners should not exceed 7 years. For the skaters who showed a quintuple twist, it is greater: the partner is 21, the partner is 12.
Little girls at this age perform ultra-c elements, but what will happen when they start growing up and taking shape? Their height and weight will change.
In pair skating, it is always very difficult to select partners based on anthropometric data, psychological compatibility, and it is no secret that at the time of puberty, many junior pairs often break up - the partner has grown up, is no longer suitable for her partner, or something else. So it is difficult to make predictions at the moment. And if we ask the question, in principle, will there be a quintuple twist in the programs? Then, first of all, this element needs to be assigned a base value so that it can be performed in competitions.
Interview by Olga Ermolina
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