We have a vaccine now and as it gets out into the general public things will improve . I don’t know a single person who is happy anything has been canceled. We want to watch skating. Why would we be glad things were canceled?It’s so amazing the amount of people that are just willing to put the world on pause! Cancel everything .... live under a rock until the problem goes away? Well the world DOES NOT stop turning! We have to adjust and adapt. It’s so unfortunate to these hard working athletes and at this point, it is unacceptable for any country or federation to not find a way to do so. Test them, Quarantine them for the 14 days before! This is crazy. We are more than one year into this and people have not come up with anything new but just to CANCEL! Don’t go out! Hope it goes away. News flash: THE VIRUS HAS NOT GONE AWAY REGARDLESS OF ANY COUNTRY SHUTDOWN! SMH! Once this is all over and the people that fought, I hope the people that are so happy that things are getting canceled and stopping the world will stay in their hovels!!! . Thanks and blessings to all the other countries that are finding ways to adapt to this. Russia, Japan, USA and all others that are not powerhouses. Stay safe everyone but please remember to LIVE!
These are good points and I was letting my annoyance get the better of me. My other sports are going forward. I watched the NCAA football championships last night and honestly didn’t realize the sacrifice of the athletes. They basically had to stay in a bubble (as a team) the entire season. No traveling home to see family or going to movies or really anything. My gymnastics is going forward. A 10 week season with 8 meets and 2 built in byes in case of health problems. I don’t follow baseball or basketball or hockey. Was hockey ever safe to begin with?Yes, but once again money sports vs a niche sport with no money and a history of lacking leadership and vision necessary to try and grow the sport. Maybe figure skating will always be niche because it's not understood how difficult it is. Many people consider figure skating sissy, pretty, frilly. Obviously, that is so far from reality. It's one of the toughest sports there is in terms of difficulty and toll on the body from training and competition. It's also difficult because of the technical and artistic components which need to be seamlessly melded in order to achieve the highest performance value.
All we can hope is that progressive individuals in the sport persuade the old-fashioned Mom/Pop thinkers to adopt a more forward-thinking approach to better market the sport. And also to bring in experts from other fields for long-term strategic planning, including testing alternatives to address this type of unexpected and rare situation which has brought normal business to a halt.
In general, a lot of positive efforts have been made by all the feds, but much of it is reactionary to the pace of developments, rather than thinking ahead for contingency plans going forward. Economically and logistically, there are so many things to consider for the short term and long term future, including the possibility that things will never return to what we've been used to, even with a vaccine. The economic hardships may further impact the dwindling attendance numbers at events too. Will more young people leave the sport, or drop off from even entering the sport?
I don't have answers. I'm just reflecting and posing questions.
I’ve heard that if the summer games are cancelled again they may push the winter games back a year. That might not be a bad thing.I'm so sorry to hear this news.
I feel so bad for all the skaters. I wonder how much the problems across Canada with the virus has to do with the cold weather climate in which the virus can flourish.
Logistically, why wouldn't they have attempted at least to mount a limited participant virtual event? I guess the cancellation decision was in part due to some athletes being unable to train properly in certain areas of the vast country, largely as a result of rink closures and/or training access restrictions. But for those skaters who are able to compete, and who wish to submit videos for a limited virtual Nationals, why not? The results would not have to be set in stone regarding future international assignments.
So, we don't get to see Walsh/Micheau at all this season?
The rest of the Challenge events will still go forward as planned since performance videos were already submitted? (ETA: Yes, per Roman Sadovsky, the men's event for Challenge will be streamed on Friday. Roman says he feels weird about not remembering how well he skated, since the performance happened so long ago. Roman explains how the logistics of submitting videos is complicated, due to the availability of rink time which varies for skaters across regions).
About Worlds, there's no telling what is going to happen. But by March, I doubt things will be back to normal globally. If they delay Worlds till May, perhaps there's an outside chance, determined by the speed of vaccinations and status of COVID cases. Still, I wish the ISU would consider and prepare for the possibility of mounting some kind of virtual competition that would not be treated or considered as a normal Worlds in terms of overall standings. The effort to have some kind of competition would be to help skaters stay motivated and active, and to engage with fans.
The skating community as a whole need to find a way to adapt and adjust under volatile conditions, instead of thinking the world will turn on a dime magically back to what we've been accustomed to. At this point, the thinking surrounding the 2022 Olympics also needs to be under serious review for mounting contingency plans. I'm not sure how an Olympics in 2022 for figure skaters is going to look if there are two aborted Worlds beforehand, not to mention truncated GP series and no GPF.
Challenge results plus past history, presumably, if it happens.How is Canada even going to pick a worlds team? Has anyone but Keegan even competed internationally?
I didn’t think Keegan did the Challenge but is the only Canadian to medal in an International event. Which is kind of unfair since he’s the only one who has been able to compete Internationally.Challenge results plus past history, presumably, if it happens.
Dance and the first pairs spot are easy to pick. Men, a bit harder to weigh. Ladies, uh, just pick whoever’s top two at Challenge (unless one of those is Ruiter).
I think your last sentence is the only correct message in your post. This is a very dangerous virus and those who choose to downplay that, are putting others at risk of not being able to "stay safe and live". I have sufficient education in infectious diseases and biosecurity to know that this virus can't be wished away because its inconvenient. Yes, it won't go away with a country shutdown but if people adhere to public health guidelines and regulations, the number of cases will decline or at least flatten - but only with dedication and hard work until at least 70% of the population is fully vaccinated, i.e. sometime in the autumn of 2021 if we are lucky. Personally I dont wish to be responsible for somebody being triaged to die in an overcapacity hospital setting - including myself. This isn't scare mongering - happening right now in the world and could happen here in Canada, particularly southern Ontario and Quebec where many of our skaters, parents and coaches live. Hospitalizations are soaring and ICU beds are almost full or full in many centres.It’s so amazing the amount of people that are just willing to put the world on pause! Cancel everything .... live under a rock until the problem goes away? Well the world DOES NOT stop turning! We have to adjust and adapt. It’s so unfortunate to these hard working athletes and at this point, it is unacceptable for any country or federation to not find a way to do so. Test them, Quarantine them for the 14 days before! This is crazy. We are more than one year into this and people have not come up with anything new but just to CANCEL! Don’t go out! Hope it goes away. News flash: THE VIRUS HAS NOT GONE AWAY REGARDLESS OF ANY COUNTRY SHUTDOWN! SMH! Once this is all over and the people that fought, I hope the people that are so happy that things are getting canceled and stopping the world will stay in their hovels!!! . Thanks and blessings to all the other countries that are finding ways to adapt to this. Russia, Japan, USA and all others that are not powerhouses. Stay safe everyone but please remember to LIVE!
We have a vaccine now and as it gets out into the general public things will improve . I don’t know a single person who is happy anything has been canceled. We want to watch skating. Why would we be glad things were canceled?
I have serious health conditions. I cannot just “adjust and adapt.” If I get Covid I could die. I have not gotten a haircut in over a year (sorry world). You think I take joy in this?
If there is a way to skate safely awesome. If not yes they need to cancel. This is a virus that kills people and gives even the young and healthy heart damage. I’d rather never see Gracie skate again than have her with permanent heart damage or on a ventilator (or Alexa or Kaitlyn or Jean Luc or any other skater).
The impression I have gotten is that Russia is less concerned with safety than I would like. I hoot this is a mistaken impression.
Sure! Of course! I never said that. I was perfectly clear !!!
That’s great! But if you are in support of stopping the world in order to do so, then you have the right. But dont stop the people who want to fight to give us normalcy! We have stopped so many things and canceled ... it’s disgusting. Time to stop!Which means that Skate Canada has the perfect right to take any measures that they feel are necessary to protect the skaters and to be commended for it. ETA: which does not stop me from feeling bad for the skaters impacted, even as I understand the precautions.
No one is going to stop me from living my life. For me, living my life in full means taking all precautions necessary, being careful and respectful of others, and making sure that others are careful and respectful around me, so that they and I can live our full lives.
That’s great! But if you are in support of stopping the world in order to do so, then you have the right. But dont stop the people who want to fight to give us normalcy! We have stopped so many things and canceled ... it’s disgusting. Time to stop!
I do enjoy the conversation though .... just for the recordNormalcy is when there is an effective vaccine, taken by everyone, against the virus. Normalcy is *not* acting as if there were no virus, and as if hundreds of thousands of people weren't dead.
If fighting for "normalcy" means allowing activities that spread the virus, darn straight I will fight against it.
But I don't think we will convince each other, so I will retire from the conversation
If you are going outside and risking yourself, you are also risking the health of others. That is how a virus gets spread. If you want to be negligent to yourself and put yourself at harm, that's your prerogative - but putting others at risk is absolutely selfish and dangerous.Sure! Of course! I never said that. I was perfectly clear !!!
Do you see gymnastics as a niche sport?
Russians had parties though. Let's not blame competitions by using Russia as an example to prove a point! Skate America was ok with their strategy, so it's not the competitions guilty for spreading any disease. In Russia they're very relaxed, but countries that took precautions like USA did not spread anything by NOT shutting down figure skating. Just saying.We only have to look to Russia and the slew of skaters/coaches contracting coronavirus to see the risks involved.