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Figure Skating in South America

Diana Delafield

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Speaking of roller figure skating.. im surprised that is not a summer Olympic sport
I've just taken up artistic roller skating this year in addition to figure skating, so I'm still learning about the sport as well as learning to do the sport. My understanding so far is that the IOC turns down bids to add roller sports in general to the summer Olympics because a) the summer Games are too big as it is, with 40+ (?) sports as opposed to about 15 or so in the winter Games, so it's harder to get yet another summer sport included, and b) while roller skating is a popular recreational sport and does have its own international federation, the organized, competitive movement is small potatoes compared to the ice version. Away from its power centre in Italy (and some countries in South America) there's no professional version of artistic roller skating, hence not much financial sponsorship. I've also been told by other roller skaters that the sport is considered too fractured into too many disciplines because of the division between using quad wheels (which I use) and inline wheels, so that each discipline is duplicated into separate events. They do have their own world championships and there are (or used to be -- I'm ignorant here and should have Googled first before I started this posting) the World Roller Games involving many sports on wheels. (Downhill Alpine roller skating? If that's really an event and not just another roller skater pulling my leg, then EEK!:jaw:)

I'm such a beginner and only know a few longtime roller skaters so far, so I'm really the wrong person to be replaying to this, but just wanted to say that there are many people who see no reason why it shouldn't be part of the summer Olympics. But the IOC disagrees, basically because the sport, while very popular as a recreational activity, isn't big enough as a competitive sport on the organizational or financial aspects compared to the ISU.
 

Anna K.

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I wonder what is going on in Ecuador.

In 2022, Valentina Cueva became the first-ever skater from Ecuador who competed in JGP (in Courchevel and in Riga) but she didn't participate in any JGP event in 2023.
What happened to her? Does anybody know?
 

Diana Delafield

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I don't know how to transfer it from Facebook, but Connaught club is showing a clip on their FB page of coach Keegan Murphy conducting a jump workshop this week in Peru. In the short clip working with one girl on double jumps, there seem to be a good number of other skaters practising around them on the ice.
 

LKGwennire

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Shouldn't this be moved to Skate of the Nations?

Anyway...

Speaking of Brazil, most of our accomplishments in this sport have been brought by first-gen Americans/Europeans with Brazilian citizenship, but once in a while a kid who was born here gets their chance, although very rarely as our biggest ice rink's size is a quarter of the official one. CBDG/Ice Brasil is the Brazilian Ice Sports Federation. There's an annual national figure skating championship hosted in Brazil for singles only.
Here's last season's nationals so you have an idea on how our current local conditions are:


Currently, in seniors, we only have one ice dance team, Natalia Pallu-Neves and Jayin Panesar. Natalia is the one with Brazilian citizenship here, her whole family is Brazilian but her parents immigrated to England and she was born in London. They actually represented GBR for some time in juniors before moving to CBDG after a feud with BIS due to not getting enough chances to compete or something. They're currently coached by Coomes and Buckland and were the first Brazilian team to compete at 4CC. They haven't managed to compete at Worlds yet.

We used to be a proper country and have a junior ice dance team too, but they've ended their partnership and currently Catharina Guedes Tibau is looking for a new partner to get back to the JGP circuit. She was born in Salvador, Brazil and moved to Canada with her family as a kid. Last season, she competed in Junior Worlds with her former partner. She's now in IAM Ontario being coached by Moir, Diaz and Hubbell. It's tough being a girl in junior ice dance, one'd think having unlimited access to international competition and good coaches would attract some candidates, but small fed politics are inexistent... Here's hoping she finds a partner soon!

In singles, we currently have two girls competing in juniors internationally and possibly a boy next season.

Elena Mills is the child of a Brazilian mother who was born in the US and thus holds double citizenship. She started to represent Brazil last year and is the typical case of an athlete who would never make it to the US nationals and so decided to look for a less crowded fed. She has some good spins though, and nice music choices. She's got a similar tech content to our current national champion, Maria, but she's always had better training conditions, so her ceiling currently seems a bit lower. However she might still be a late bloomer like Isadora Williams, another American-born Brazilian who was famously the first Latin American to make it to the free skating at the Olympics (although you could argue that Donovan was the first Latin American born and raised skater... Citizenship is complicated, y'all). Elena has never competed in Brazil, btw, I wonder where she'd place in nationals.

Maria Reikdal was born and raised in Brazil and doubles as an inline artistic skater since there are no permanent rinks nearby. She's actually the current world junior champion in artistic inline skating, although her tech difficulty is much lower than what you'd see in a junior figure skating champion. Still, she's undisputably the best female figure skater, junior or senior, who currently trains in Brazil, thus the only one competing internationally. I personally think she's got a lot of potential but she needs proper training conditions and a better coach (she's coached by her parents who have no figure skating experience) in order to improve. She has landed 3S, 3T (in competition) and 3F (in training) on both inline and figure skates and 3Lo in training in figure skates. Her 2A is actually really decent.

Lucaz Filipe was also born and raised in Brazil and is our up and coming male junior figure skater and I think he might finally get his shot at competing internationally at the JGP next season as he has been working on cleaning his triples this summer at the US. He's got some potential too and I hope he's able to keep upgrading his tech content as he grows up and gets to train abroad more often (his family seems to be financially able to send him there once in a while - again, not ideal but...). I actually wish he and Maria could become the first Brazilian pairs team as she's so tiny and he's so tall :biggrin: (and they've trained SBS triples together on occasion, Maria specially has played with pair elements before) but it's impossible to seriously train pairs elements in Brazilian rinks so it's a distant dream as of now... Both of them would probably have a better chance of success as a team than on singles, but things aren't that simple, of course. Still, one can dream for more trailblazers in this country where summer is all year long :laugh:

You can check the Brazilian figure skaters Wikipedia category for more info on former skaters, it's very well kept :)
 
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Anna K.

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I don't know how to transfer it from Facebook, but Connaught club is showing a clip on their FB page of coach Keegan Murphy conducting a jump workshop this week in Peru. In the short clip working with one girl on double jumps, there seem to be a good number of other skaters practising around them on the ice.
And now, it's time for the result :love:
Pay attention to the commentary during replays when Mark recalls talking with Mora about her influences.
I am most familiar with the Peruvian club because Jason has traveled to Peru to give lessons there.

Jason Brown was also mentioned and I can say that it feels in Mora's performance. She definitely transferred emotions and, after all, even though she ended up with one-digit TES, her PCS was twice as big as her TES, which doesn't happen very often even with way better established skaters:

 

goldenwaltz

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Pallu-Neves/Panesar (BRA) will be competing in the Denis Ten Memorial and Trophée Métropole Nice Côte d'Azur. They kept their FD from last season but hopefully we will see some improvement.
 

Anna K.

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Elena [Mills] has never competed in Brazil, btw, I wonder where she'd place in nationals.
Actually, I often think about it when skaters who are born/trained elsewhere represent South American countries. How does, for instance, the selection process for JGP work given that the skaters never compete with each other? What are the criteria?

I also noticed that Maria Reikdal did not go to JGP this year. What happened?
 

Anna K.

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Pallu-Neves/Panesar (BRA) will be competing in the Denis Ten Memorial and Trophée Métropole Nice Côte d'Azur. They kept their FD from last season but hopefully we will see some improvement.
They also competed in Golden Spin of Zagreb, finished 9th with a new PB 167.03
Can't wait to see them in 4CC!

Here is their FD in Zagreb:
 

Anna K.

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In Zagreb, Mexican dancers Harlow Stanley/Seiji Urano also competed. They improved their PB as well; now, it's 122.73 but they need 12.02 more tech points to qualify for. 4CC

I found it interesting that, in Mexican Nationals, two dance duos competed and Stanley/Urano actually finished second. Here are the rhythm dance performances (manually recorded) of both teams at Nationals:

Eva Aversano Martinez/Christian Bennett (dance starts at 1:50)

Harlow Stanley/Seiji Urano

Thus far, it looks like it was a fair result :)
 

Anna K.

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I wonder if this year's Golden Spin of Zagreb had the most South American participants ever in a CS Ice Dance event? There were three teams; the two mentioned above and also Gabriela Palomeque/Tanner White who represented Ecuador. They finished in the last, 12th place with PB 94.26.
I understand that this is a brand new team and their first international outing was in this year's Mezzaluna Cup (this competition in ice dance only was held in Mentana, Italy. on Oct 24-27, 2024). There, they also finished last but. regardless, happy and proud Gabriela uploaded both their dances on her YouTube channel. The videos are a bit misty, but still...

RD:
FD:
 
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Diana Delafield

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I wonder if this year's Golden Spin of Zagreb had the most South American participants ever in a CS Ice Dance event? There were three teams; the two mentioned above and also Gabriela Palomeque/Tanner White who represented Ecuador. They finished in the last, 12th place with PB 94.26.
I understand that this is a brand new team and their first international outing was in this year's Mezzaluna Cup (this competition in ice dance only was held in Mentana, Italy. on Oct 24-27, 2024). There, they also finished last but. regardless, happy and proud Gabriela uploaded both their dances on her YouTube channel. The videos are a bit misty, but still...

RD:

FD:
The Lakeshore arena in Pointe Claire, Quebec, used to have heavy mist conditions like that every summer, or certainly the two summers I skated there. If you fell, you got up quickly because you disappeared into the fog at ice level and someone would trip over you :dbana:. For test sessions, they didn't include figures because the judges couldn't see them, and I knew some skaters who deliberately took freeskate tests there in summers because the judges tended to give the benefit of the doubt as to jump edges :cool::shrug:.

I admire these skaters for competing under those circumstances!
 

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... Gabriela Palomeque/Tanner White who represented Ecuador. ...
I understand that this is a brand new team and their first international outing was in Mezzaluna Cup 2024. ...

In July 2024, Gabriela Palomeque/Tanner White represented Ecuador at Lake Placid International, which was their very first international competition, AFAIK.
(I had a chance there to speak to the endearing Gabriela.)

I found it interesting that, in Mexican Nationals, two dance duos competed and Stanley/Urano actually finished second. Here are the rhythm dance performances (manually recorded) of both teams at Nationals:

Eva Aversano Martinez/Christian Bennett (dance starts at 1:50)


Harlow Stanley/Seiji Urano


Thus far, it looks like it was a fair result :)

I am a fan of Stanley/Urano, but FWIW, I believe that among these four skaters now representing Mexico, Bennett has the most experience in partnered ice dance.
He was competing in junior ice dance at least as far back as 2019. Competed at U.S. Nationals in ice dance at juvenile, intermediate, and junior levels, before briefly representing Canada.
 
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Anna K.

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The Lakeshore arena in Pointe Claire, Quebec, used to have heavy mist conditions like that every summer, or certainly the two summers I skated there. If you fell, you got up quickly because you disappeared into the fog at ice level and someone would trip over you :dbana:. For test sessions, they didn't include figures because the judges couldn't see them, and I knew some skaters who deliberately took freeskate tests there in summers because the judges tended to give the benefit of the doubt as to jump edges :cool::shrug:.

I admire these skaters for competing under those circumstances!
Priceless story, as always! (y)
In July 2024, Gabriela Palomeque/Tanner White represented Ecuador at Lake Placid International, which was their very first international competition, AFAIK.
(I had a chance there to speak to the endearing Gabriela.)
Awesome :love:
I searched a bit and found a video of this historic debut , too (it's FD):
I believe that among these four skaters now representing Mexico, Bennett has the most experience in partnered ice dance.
He was competing in junior ice dance at least as far back as 2019. Competed at U.S. Nationals in ice dance at juvenile, intermediate, and junior levels, before briefly representing Canada.
I had that feeling that his name and surname sounded familiar... So, this is this Christian Bennett:

He has not updated his Twitter profile but it's him. I checked his Instagram. He posted his new team announcement there two months ago with words "we'll be representing Mexico" 😃
 
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