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Love and Punishment

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Title: Love and Punishment

Genre: Drama

First aired: 2010-01-05

Cast: Tomris İncer, Oktay Gürsoy, Nurgül Yeşilçay, Murat Yildirim, Feride Çetin, Zeynep Beşerler, Caner Kurtaran, Gökçe Yanardağ

Overview: Aşk ve Ceza is a Turkish television drama series that aired in 2010-2011. Nunu Yeşilçay, Murat Yildirim and Feride Çetin starring, the series were shot in Van, Bodrum and Istanbul. In 2011, this series were broadcast also in Croatia in Nova TV. In Serbia, this series is airing from January 8, 2013 in 1PRVA. In Georgia TV Maestro started broadcasting this series on 15 April 2013.
 

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This forum is for the wonderful Turkish series Ask ve Ceza - English - Love and Punishment. It is a beautiful love story between Savas and Yasemin.

A group of us have just finished watching Season 2 with English subtitles. We so enjoyed discussing on this forum what we were watching that we have decided to go back and watch Season 1 on Netflix starting with episode 1, and at the same time discuss it on this forum. We will start Oct 3. So come back and join us watching the show from the very beginning and discussing it together. We're starting with Netflix episodes 1-6. Each following week we will watch the next 6 netflix episodes. So go ahead and start watching those episodes and post your comments on those episodes. We love talking with each other about this beautiful fairy tale of a love story. Everyone is welcome!!

Understand that the original series had episodes 1 1/2 hours long, running 2 seasons from episode 1 through 62. Netflix took the episodes for season 1 (E 1 - 23) and cut them in half for the Netflix versions, so Netflix 1 - 43 is actually the original season 1 episodes 1 - 23. Enjoy and savor with us.

Below you will find some informational setup to the series for you.
 

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FYI: date event occurred for Netflix E1 Beginning - maybe several days or one week before Nov 17 0r 18, 2008; ending NE1 and beginning NE 2 - Nov 17 or 18, 2008

OK, I just want to post this little informational post before we start

1. since drinking tea is such a huge past time in Turkey and you will see a lot of it in this series.

Apparently there is a difference between a Turkish tea house and Turkish tea garden or a cafe. http://turkishtravelblog.com/turkish-tea-house/

and how to prepare turkish tea:
https://www.teagora.com/blogs/blog/16773675-how-to-prepare-tea-in-a-caydanlik-turkish-tea-kettle
or on youtube (this is a cute turkish couple teaching us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5sNSOzNsVc
or this sweet one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmSLhe1nT8

and how to drink it :biggrin: : https://www.teagora.com/blogs/blog/18152163-how-to-drink-turkish-tea
http://www.turkeyforyou.com/turkey_turkish_tea_drinking

2. And here's for Turkish coffee - how to make :coffee::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UghjdGRhCPE
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRt_wpghiko

you'll see Sahnur constantly grinding her own coffee grounds.

and this is adorable on how to read the coffee grounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7uOYNTTEfA
 

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Ok. My first post here. Starting over with L&p.

good to see you made it. I value your opinion and this time around i'm going to rethink cicek and do what Yasemin suggested to Savas concerning his mother and Seher, - don't judge her, try to understand her.
 

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Ok
I never realized what a lousy group of advertisers that worked at XL. Was Yasemine the only one with talent?

Alpay described her as the queen of the advertising world.

tomorrow is a day of travel for me, talk with you on Wednesday.
 

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Haven't gone to bed yet and want to share this with you. Here's Yasemin's apartment - E3 you only see Koftecisi on the sign to the left of the entrance to her apt, but the entire name is Galata Koftecisi. Galata is the name of the tower that her apt overlooks at the window side of her apt. - 3 Camekan Sk or 1 Buyuk Hendek Cd
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.025...4!1skJ8TR1EszaZPeZkKNRJ9Vw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

then look up above that entrance and you see the tower overlooking the windows to her apartment:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.025...4!1sU8fygFGvRX_SANAamKVp1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Now someplace Cem's restaurant is in the vacinity, cause Sevgi will tell her she's close by but who knows where that might be.
 

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I see that Savas' father's name is Hasip not Hasib, at least that's the way it's spelled on his name plate that Savas has kept at the desk at the office. And I recognize the portrait of his father and brother but who is that older man in the middle portrait. I think we'll see it all over the place. Maybe it's Savas' Baldar grandfather.
 

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What a way to start a series - first scene starts with a woman's big foot coming out from underneath the bed sheets. :eek:
 

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I like how the Corleoni family is introduced - walking out of the airport one by one in full view of everyone, with a group gathered around them, wanting to say hello. Sahnur actually looks pretty in a veil other than black.

Yasemin has a younger looking hair style, but she's already wearing her father's angel necklace to work. And she's supporting Mehmet full time so that he can get his doctorate, what a mooch.t

And I just love the Van wedding scenes: the car wrapped up like present, horses gathered around the wedding couple riding through town with the riders carrying rifles! The gun shots when the couple appears together out of the building. It reminds me of a reality show here about American gypsies and the weddings they have.

this series is constantly filming in front of historic locations and it did here in Van, the wedding parade went right down Eski Kale Yolu in front of the castlle mound with a mosque in front. NE 1: Here it is on the map: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.497...4!1siNiLp7JhEyRULffXXL-ffw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And why do the brides wear wedding dresses with a red ribbon around the waist. I've seen more than one Turkish bride dressed like that.

Did you notice that both Esref and Ishmael are present at the wedding.

And then oh my - that spit that Nazan gives her brother. I tried doing it and couldn't get how she did it. But then the physical violance in the family was surprising - Sahnur slapping her daughter in front of her brothers like she did.
 

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And then we begin to learn about Savas' character: kind, good, educated, considerate of his family. And we start to fall in love with him!
 

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Question - Yasemin and Mehmet both had keys to their upcoming joint apartment, why didn't Yasemin ever give Savas keys to her villa?
 

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And then OMG caught in the middle of his affair and he shouts - you made me do it! I told you we needed to have sex. It's your fault. If you had slept with me I wouldn't have had to... My eyes rolled when I first heard that from him, What a sharp contrast to the patience and honest love of Savas for her.
 

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For the life of me I can't see what is engraved inside that wedding band that we see before Yasemin throws it into the sea.
 

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And now we have Savas meeting Yasemin at Cem's bar. It just occurred to me that he has been used to women falling at his feet his whole life. Now he has one that he is attracted to but she is not falling at his feet, but rather is talking back to him. He's not used to a woman being so bold with him. She's going to be a challenge for him, and a challenge he wants because he's attracted to her. Anyway I just love the bar and boat scene in these 2 episodes!

Here's Cem's bar on Neyzen Tevfik Cd, in Bodrum: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.035...4!1sNUv-Fr9S7WrT057Y5WXJEg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And then Savas is drawing a heart on the table with Yasemin's necklace and wants to hunt her down and Cem says who knows who she's sleeping with right now. Poor Savas already defending her - don't be ridiculous, she's not that kind of a girl! Love it. He already has a sense of who she is and that she won't be someone who is out to sleep with everybody. (she's angry, hurt, gave up her virginity because of it and is not a little high school silly girl)
 

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I think that Kemal really loved Cicek. He says he waited for her for 10 years. She's about 20-21, he's about 32-33. He had to wait for her to become an adult, although I think girls married at a much younger age. I don't like the attitude he has - I AM KEMAL BALDAR. And I don't like his sexist attitude, dragging her away from an education, but she has no idea that he really loves her.
 
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