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Posts about Russian skaters that involve controversial subjects like politics, the war, and doping should be posted here and not in the rest of the forum
Russian Skaters, Politics, and the Russia-Ukraine War
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I support all the present and future sanctions, but excluding Russian athletes, coaches and choreographers from ISU skating awards is a bit unfair and unjust. These are past actions and excellence gratifications, for the period before the war, so it looks like a pure retaliation.
It's obviously nothing compared what's happening in Ukraine, but still I feel it's not just and adequate punishment.
It's obviously nothing compared what's happening in Ukraine, but still I feel it's not just and adequate punishment.
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I think the ban on athletes from competition isn't just at all, its punishing people with 0 to do with government decisions, but the ISU awards is and has been the stupidest thing since it's began.
March 2018, Vladimir Putin's election rally in "Luzhniki" stadium.
It was purely political support appearance as they both met president at official post-Olympic meeting week before.
Two weeks later on March 18th, Vladimir Putin got elected for president of Russian Federation.
such Hollywood drama in this phrase (and pause before that!):
"Two weeks later on March 18th, Vladimir Putin got elected for president of Russian Federation."
two ladies skaters changed history!
Our president is supported by the majority of the population. For most of us, he is not a "pure embodiment of evil" and a "mad Kremlin tyrant". And the participation of our wonderful girls in the rally is not something "horrifyingly unrighteous".
P.S. We should not clog this thread with these political stuff. just look at what the moderators wrote at the bottom "Do not discuss doping or political issues in this thread. Use the Speakeasy Forum instead. You can post to existing threads there or create your own.". And still people do it...
"Two weeks later on March 18th, Vladimir Putin got elected for president of Russian Federation."
two ladies skaters changed history!
Our president is supported by the majority of the population. For most of us, he is not a "pure embodiment of evil" and a "mad Kremlin tyrant". And the participation of our wonderful girls in the rally is not something "horrifyingly unrighteous".
P.S. We should not clog this thread with these political stuff. just look at what the moderators wrote at the bottom "Do not discuss doping or political issues in this thread. Use the Speakeasy Forum instead. You can post to existing threads there or create your own.". And still people do it...
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I was in 2 minds, but it is true that Russia uses sport as propaganda. Personally, just remove the flags...but I don't know if that's me being selfish because I want to see them succeed and have their chances.
Anyways careful not to get too political, most likely this post will be destroyed.
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Well it has nothing to do with what's happening in Ukraine. Where is the line? Will they take Olympic medals from Russians? Will they erase Russian skaters from history?
Putin has all to do with what's happening in Ukraine and Russian athletes have supported or even promoted him.
When Olympic and World medalists in one of the most popular sports in the country show up on politician's election rally, it's a huge positive image boost.
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Okay, I've been exhausted and completely out of the loop lately. Who did this? 🤞*Please...not Anna...not Zhenya...not Sasha...🤞
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Ah...unfortunate. Seems to be from before the crazy though, so I guess that's not so terrible.
If Putin is a crazy authoritarian jailing dissidents that everyone is proclaiming him to be, you really think they could choose to not go to certain events like the rally you mentioned?
And the athletes you pictured aren't even actively competing.
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Tarasova/Morozov and Sin/Katsalapov were also used for propaganda just now, during pro-war rally with Z on their Olympic jackets. Potential retirees, again, but pretty in your face.
I can only repeat the call to the ISU to relax the federation release rules. If ballet dancers in opposition to the war are allowed to leave, so should be the athletes.
I support the ban, but I think that lashing out at the people who are interested in following the athletes and watch competitions that are held internally in Russia is an overkill. The goal is to stop a horrible war, not to summarily shame and punish 150 mln people for the crime of being born in Russia.
I can only repeat the call to the ISU to relax the federation release rules. If ballet dancers in opposition to the war are allowed to leave, so should be the athletes.
I support the ban, but I think that lashing out at the people who are interested in following the athletes and watch competitions that are held internally in Russia is an overkill. The goal is to stop a horrible war, not to summarily shame and punish 150 mln people for the crime of being born in Russia.
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This is last straw. ☝️
Since now, every forum user claiming Russian athletes have nothing to do with Russian politics should be immediately banned for trolling/idiocy/propaganda.
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I genuinely feel nauseous after seeing the pic and the video of the Russian skaters at this pro-war rally with the Z on their jackets. 🤢🤮 This makes me even more relieved that the ISU has banned Russia from its events.
In case anyone wanted an article of what has been shared above:
www.vg.no
In case anyone wanted an article of what has been shared above:
Russiske OL-helter vist frem i propagandashow før Putins tale til folket
Russlands OL-helter ble trukket frem før president Vladimir Putins tale til folket. Blant dem: Aleksandr Bolsjunov, som tilsynelatende er den eneste som ikke er ikledd krigssymbolet.
www.vg.no
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I can’t blame an athlete for acting in their own self-interest, and Russia seems like one of those places where being an elite athlete is a nice solid pathway to a well-paying second career with good travel benefits in the publications and press releases department at the Ministry of Sport as long as you don’t make waves. But it definitely makes me feel colder toward that athlete.
Not that a Russian skater needs the support of some rando from Florida posting on the internets.
Not that a Russian skater needs the support of some rando from Florida posting on the internets.
Russian athletes have nothing to do with Russian politics.
A proper response. Nikita is still using Instagram so I'm sure he could have reached out to his former training mates beforehand to apologize and say what was about to happen if he was forced to do it.
