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Should I get my new boot or even try a new brand?

AFan

Spectator
Joined
Aug 24, 2021
So I (18F) am now wearing Edea Concerto with a Phantom Revolution Blade (new and bought a year ago, size 255 C). I am now starting to do axel and back sit spins, I am not yet able to do them, but making progress. It also makes me realize that I might have bought the wrong size.

At the time I bought my current boot, I changed from the Overture 260 C. I have tried the 250 boot, but I thought 255 boot is good enough as my skating school suggested the size 3 years ago when I got the first skates, and I thought it wouldn't be possiblefor be to skate in boots with a whole size too big. The 250 boot was a bit tight but not other issue, so I bought 255 instead for more comfort.

At first I got my new skates, it was nice for me. I barely need anytime to get used to the skates, I can do my sit spins and back spins almost in the first lesson (I have worn the skates for a few times off ice before that, but not on ice as the rink did not allow any ice time other lesson). Problems doesn't start to appear when I wear my skates longer.

After a few months, the rink have more space for doing camel spins. I realized that I can't step on the bottom of the boot when I change from a camel position to a sit position. My heel is stepped on the back of the boot inside of the sole, and I can only fix that after coming out of the spin. I solve that issue by moving my foot all the way to the back of my boot, but I find it difficult to jump with that. I find myself often slipping off the edge or even the toe pick when I jump. Thus, I resharpen the blade despite everyone tells me that my blade is still very sharp and it does not improve much. When I practice my axel, I feel like I often slip off and making my lace loosened.

So I asked my friend to lend me her skates to try it out. It is the exact some boot and blade except it is 250 C. It was used for around two years. I find it fits quite well and the discomfort I experience is same as my current boot. I tried an 15 mins session on ice with that and I find my movements and strength is passed to the ice more directly. When I move my foot to the toe of the boot, I can insert a finger at the back of my bigger foot (not all the way to the bottom as the boot edge is obstructing it, but I feel that there should be enough space).

I had some issues with pain wearing that skates, thought these occurred with my last two skates. I experienced pain in the arch region that it always persisted throughout the life of my last skates. My physiotherapist suggested that my arch and calf are tight. At the end, my friend added a thin pad at the outside edge under the boot and it reduces the pain to less than 50% of original. Another issue is at the navicular region, the pain was gone within a month of the overture boot, but remains present in this year with the Concerto boot. It sometimes causes some peeling and redness of the skin. My navicular bone are a bit more prominent than average but I had an X-ray and there is not structural issue. The pain is maximum when I first got onto the ice, and become better after around one hour on ice. The pain doesn't improve much after breaking in the boot and I often need to apply tropical painkillers to get through it.

I am almost certain that my boot is too large but I am not sure if I need a 250 or 245 boot. And I am also considering if changing a brand can improve the pain issues. I feel that I can't really trust my feelings and fitter is not available in my region. Any advice for temporary fix is also appreciated.
 

Elija

On the Ice
Joined
Mar 25, 2019
Have you been professionally fitted? Yes the boots sound too big. You shouldn’t be going up a size just because they feel a bit more comfortable, that’s going to put your weight in the wrong place and make it harder to centre spins. As for arch support, you may need an orthotic in your skate, a lot of skaters do. However if the boot is too big, it’s not going to be in the right place. As for the navicular bone, you can get that spot punched out. I’ve had that with my last two pairs of edeas, solved the issue immediately. Anyway, sounds like you need to go and see a fitter, get your foot properly measured and get the right size boot, be it another concerto or something else if that’s what the fitter recommends.
 

AFan

Spectator
Joined
Aug 24, 2021
Have you been professionally fitted? Yes the boots sound too big. You shouldn’t be going up a size just because they feel a bit more comfortable, that’s going to put your weight in the wrong place and make it harder to centre spins. As for arch support, you may need an orthotic in your skate, a lot of skaters do. However if the boot is too big, it’s not going to be in the right place. As for the navicular bone, you can get that spot punched out. I’ve had that with my last two pairs of edeas, solved the issue immediately. Anyway, sounds like you need to go and see a fitter, get your foot properly measured and get the right size boot, be it another concerto or something else if that’s what the fitter recommends.
I am considering to see a virtual fitter as we don't have such practice in my region. When I bought my first skates, the skating school recommended 255, but I bought 260 for some growth space. So I thought a 255 boot would be small enough when I changed to the Concerto, but apparently I need an even smaller one.
 

MiraiFan

On the Ice
Joined
Oct 6, 2016
I am considering to see a virtual fitter as we don't have such practice in my region. When I bought my first skates, the skating school recommended 255, but I bought 260 for some growth space. So I thought a 255 boot would be small enough when I changed to the Concerto, but apparently I need an even smaller one.
Your skates should never have "growth space"--they should fit your foot snugly with very little wiggle room. Also, make sure you are lacing your Edeas tightly around your instep--they lace differently than normal skates.
 

Ic3Rabbit

Patineuse élite et professionnelle
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Jan 9, 2017
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I am considering to see a virtual fitter as we don't have such practice in my region. When I bought my first skates, the skating school recommended 255, but I bought 260 for some growth space. So I thought a 255 boot would be small enough when I changed to the Concerto, but apparently I need an even smaller one.
What area do you live in and possibly I can suggest a pro fitter. Also, if you are going to do a fitting, you may want to try other brands. What kind of arch do you have: Low, standard, high?
 
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