Team USA -which will miss nationals?

[dorispulaski]

Did you wonder whether all the US Team members qualified to Nationals? I did...and in some cases, I am still wondering.

If you what's going in the case of skaters with question marks after their name(s), highlighted in yellow, Please Say!

And for those who will not be at Nationals, highlighted in blue, please join me in a moment of sadness.
(pass the Kleenex box)

USA Team Envelope skaters may have byes
Those competing internationally during sectionals definitely do.
I have tried to determine which of these skaters have byes, and put the reason for it under their name.
I have also recorded when they qualified at 2017 Nationals or Sectionals.

TEAM A


Ladies​

Ashley Wagner Top five at Nationals last year

Karen Chen Top five at Nationals last year

Men​

Adam Rippon Competing at Skate America	Jason Brown Top five at Nationals last year
Nathan Chen Top five at Nationals last year

Pairs​

Haven Denney & Brandon Frazier Top five at Nationals last year

Alexa Scimeca & Chris Knierim Competing at Skate America

Dance​

Madison Hubbell & Zach Donohue Top five at Nationals last year	Madison Chock & Evan Bates Top five at Nationals last year
Maia Shibutani & Alex Shibutani Top five at Nationals last year

TEAM B

Ladies​

Caroline Zhang Top 5 at US Nationals	Mirai Nagasu Top 5 US Nationals
Courtney Hicks Competing at CS Warsaw	Mariah Bell Top 5 at US Nationals
Gracie Gold Withdrew from Nationals Qualified due to Past Olympic medal in Team Event

Men​

Grant Hochstein Top 5 at US Nationals	Ross Miner Top 5 at US Nationals
Max Aaron Competing at GP France	Vincent Zhou Competing at GP France Top 5 at US Nationals

Pairs​

Tarah Kayne & Daniel O'Shea Top 5 at US Nationals	Chelsea Liu & Brian Johnson Competing at Cup of Warsaw
Marissa Castelli & Mervin Tran Top 5 at US Nationals	Jessica Pfund & Joshua Santillan Competing at Cup of Warsaw Top 5 at US Nationals
Deanna Stellato & Nathan Bartholomay Competing at Skate America Top 5 at US Nationals	Ashley Cain & Timothy LeDuc Top 5 at US Nationals

Dance​

Kaitlin Hawayek & Jean-Luc Baker Top 5 at US Nationals	Rachael Parsons & Michael Parsons Competing at Skate America
Lorraine McNamara & Quinn Carpenter Competing at Cup of Warsaw	Julia Biechler & Damian Dodge Qualified at Easterns
Christina Carreria & Anthony Ponomarenko Qualified for JGPF	Elliana Pogrebinsky & Alex Benoit Top 5 US Nationals

TEAM C

Ladies​

Angela Wang competing at CS Tallinn	Amber Glenn competed at Cup of China???? Is this close enough to sectionals for her to get a bye?
Polina Edmunds competing at GP France	Bradie Tennell Competing at Skate America
Ashley Lin Qualified Senior at Midwesterns	Starr Andrews qualified Senior at Pacifics
Kaitlyn Nguyen qualified Senior at Pacifics

Men​

Alexander Johnson qualified Senior at Midwesterns	Timothy Dolensky qualified Senior at Easterns
Jordan Moeller qualified Senior at Midwesterns	Andrew Torgashev Qualified JGPF Competing at CS Warsaw as Senior
Aleksei Krasnozhon Competing JGPF	Sean Rabbitt qualified Senior at Pacifics
Camden Pulkinen Competing JGPF	Ryan Dunk Qualified junior at Easterns

Pairs​

Jessica Noelle Calalang & Zack Sidhu??? Not Top 5 US Nationals Competed Finlandia & Autumn Classic Did Not Compete Sectionals	Erika Smith & AJ Reiss ???? Competed at Nebelhorn. Did not compete at Sectionals They are from Pacific Region, which is sending no Senior Pair. Only 3 Senior Pairs qualified out of Sectionals. Could they go??
Elli Kopmar & Jonah Barrett ???Silver medallists in Juniors at US Nationals 2017?? Competed at 2017 - Junior Grand Prix (Belarus) Did not compete at sectionals. Status Junior. Again, pairs field is thin.	Nica Digerness & Danny Neudecker ????Gold medallists in Juniors in pairs at US Nationals 2017?? Have not competed this season Current status would be senior if they still are a team. Again, pairs field is super thin in Seniors.

Dance​

Chloe Lewis & Logan Bye Qualified junior at Pacifics

Karina Manta & Joseph Johnson Qualified senior at Midwesterns

TEAM D

Ladies​

Nina Ouellette Did not qualify at Pacifics In Seniors	Ting Cui Qualified in Juniors at Easterns
Angelina Huang Qualified in Juniors at Midwesterns	Pooja Kalyan Qualified in Juniors at Midwesterns
Emmy Ma Qualified in Seniors at Eastern

Men​

Eric Sjoberg ??? 2017 - Junior Grand Prix (Australia) - 8th, top 5 in Juniors last year. Did not compete in sectionals	Maxim Naumov Qualified in juniors at Easterns
Mathew Graham 6th in 2017 Nationals in Juniors Did not compete this fall.	Joseph Kang 2nd in 2017 Nationals in Novices Did not compete this fall.
Sasha Lunin Qualified juniors at Midwesterns	Dinh Tran Qualified juniors at Pacifics

Pairs​

Laiken Lockley & Keenan Prochnow Qualified at Midwesterns in Juniors

Dance​

Caroline Green & Gordon Green Qualified in Juniors at Easterns	Sophia Elder & Christopher Elder Qualified in Juniors at Easterns
Katarina DelCamp & Maxwell Gart Qualified in Juniors at Midwesterns	Eliana Gropman & Ian Somerville Qualified in Juniors at Easterns
Jocelyn Haines & James Koszuta Qualified in Juniors at Pacifics.

RESERVE TEAM
Ladies​

Paige Rydberg Failed to qualify in Seniors at Midwesterns	Tessa Hong Qualified in Seniors at Pacifics
Megan Wessenberg Qualified at Seniors at Easterns	Stephanie Ciarochi Did not qualify to Nationals in Novices at Midwesterns
Hanna Harrell Qualified at Juniors at Midwesterns	Alysa Liu Qualified at Juniors at Pacifics
Livvy Shilling Did not qualify at Pacifics In Senior; .	Audrey Shin Qualified in juniors at Easterns

Men​

Joshua Farris Did not compete this season	Tomoki Hiwatashi Qualified seniors at Midwesterns
Nicholas Hsieh Qualified in Novices at Easterns	Goku Endo Qualified in Novices at Pacifics

Pairs​

Audrey Lu & Misha Mitrofanov Qualified juniors at Midwesterns	Sarah Feng and TJ Nyman Qualified juniors at Pacifics
Alexandria Yao & Jacob Simon New team, competed on JGP. Did not compete at Sectionals????.

Dance​

Emma Gunter and Caleb Wein Qualified juniors at Easterns	Isabella Amoia & Luca Becker Qualified juniors at Midwesterns
Avonley Nguyen & Vadym Kolesnik Qualified juniors at Midwesterns

 

[dorispulaski]

Bye rules

Here is what the USFSA Rule book says. May it help you figure this out.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/2017-18 Rulebook.pdf

First, some skaters listed as not going may be called up as alternates:

2480 Alternates – Singles, Pairs and Ice Dance

2481 Skaters placing fifth and sixth in qualifying competitions in each of the senior, junior, novice, intermediate and juvenile events will be designated as first and second alternates for their region/section. All alternates will be provided with an application to file with the next competition, national or sectional. The skaters should continue to train and be prepared should they become eligible to compete.

2482 Alternates may be selected up to 24 hours before the start of the affected skater’s first competitive event.

2500 Qualifying for the U.S. Figure Skating Championships

Top 4 at sectionals qualify. There are also fill-up rules, if there are fewer than 4 competitors in a sectionals event, for pairs and dance.

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A. Fill-Up Rule: For pair and ice dance events only, if there are four or fewer teams from one or more sections, additional competitors from the same event in other sections will be permitted to enter in order to bring the number of competitors up to a maximum of 12 (or more, if ties make it necessary). These additional competitors will be selected in the order of their placement. Should this result in two or more competitors qualifying for one additional place, all will be included, even if this causes the total number of competitors in the event to exceed 12.

1. If a pair or ice dance event already has 12 or more competitors due to international byes and/or automatic invitations (rules 2514-2519), there will be no fill-ups to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships for that event.

So Senior Pairs has 2 teams from sectionals, and 9 pairs with plausible bye reasons. Do Erika Smith & AJ Reiss get to be the 12th team? How about Nica Digerness & Danny Neudecker?
Does any other team?

Junior Dance has 10 regular qualifiers, and Christina Carreira & Anthony Ponomarenko who qualify because they made the JGPF. That also would qualify them for Seniors, should they desire to test up. Either way, the fifth place team from Easterns and Midwesterns get to go, because of the tie rule.

Junior Pairs and Junior Dance follow standard fillup rules and have, as far as I can see, no byes.

That leaves Alexandria Yao & Jacob Simon and Elli Kopmar & Jonah Barrett out in the cold, which leads me to ask, are they injured or split, since they did not compete at sectionals?


Additionally, skaters with internal events that conflict with sectionals do not have to compete there, but how close is it for a conflict? I would assume that events scheduled the week before, the week after, and the same week would all qualify.

In seniors, operatively, NHK, IdF, Skate America, and CS Warsaw and CS Tallinn Cup.

No junior events conflict.

Which leaves me unsure of the status of Amber Glenn, who competed at Cup of China.

 

[dorispulaski]

I hope you will all give me a hand here?

 

[dorispulaski]

BTW, Krasnozhon, Pulkinen, and Torgashev all qualified for the JGPF. They could, if they wanted, compete at Senior Nationals.

Should any of them?

 

[Spirals for Miles]

BTW, Krasnozhon, Pulkinen, and Torgashev all qualified for the JGPF. They could, if they wanted, compete at Senior Nationals.

Should any of them?

Are those the rules for US as well as Russia?

If so, I'd like to see Pulkinen and Krasnozhon. Maybe Torgashev but I'm not sure if he's ready.

 

[dorispulaski]

I do not know what the rules are in Russia, but all 3 are USA skaters.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I do not know what the rules are in Russia, but all 3 are USA skaters.

Yes
But do all the JGPF skaters go to seniors nationals in the US?

 

[ice coverage]

Did you wonder whether all the US Team members qualified to Nationals? I did...and in some cases, I am still wondering.

If you what's going in the case of skaters with question marks after their name(s), highlighted in yellow, Please Say!

And for those who will not be at Nationals, highlighted in blue, please join me in a moment of sadness.
(pass the Kleenex box)

USA Team Envelope skaters may have byes
Those competing internationally during sectionals definitely do.
I have tried to determine which of these skaters have byes, and put the reason for it under their name.
I have also recorded when they qualified atNationals.

TEAM B

Men​

Vincent Zhou Competing at GP France

Pairs​

Jessica Pfund & Joshua Santillan Competing at Cup of Warsaw

Deanna Stellato & Nathan Bartholomay Competing at Skate America

TEAM C

Pairs​

Jessica Noelle Calalang & Zack Sidhu??? Not Top 5 2017 US Nationals Did not compete at Sectionals

Erika Smith & AJ Reiss ???? Competed at Ondrej Nepela. Did not compete at Sectionals They are from Pacific Region, which is sending no Senior Pair. Only 3 Senior Pairs qualified out of Sectionals. Could they go??

RESERVE TEAM
Ladies​

Hannah Harrell Qualified at Juniors at Midwesterns

Men​

Tomoki Hiwatashi Qualified juniors at Midwesterns

Pairs​

Alexandria Yao & Jacob Simon New team, competed on JGP. Did not compete at Sectionals????.

...

Thanks for putting together this labor-intensive table, Doris. Great to have it as a reference in days/weeks/months/years to come.

Hugs to those who did not qualify for Nats.

Comments:

Tomoki Hiwatashi qualified as a Senior at Midwesterns.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2018/25074/results.html​

The following finished in Top Five at Nationals:

Vincent Zhou
Pfund/Santillan
Stellato/Bartholomay
https://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2017/24267/results.html​

Calalang/Sidhu did not finish in Top Five at Nationals. (Not sure, but I think they withdrew b/c he was injured??)

I know it was USFS who misspelled her name in the envelope listing, but she is Hanna (only one H) Harrell.

http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/profile/hanna_harrell
http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00103187.htm​

Nitpicking: Smith/Reiss competed at Nepela, not Nebelhorn.​

... That leaves Alexandria Yao & Jacob Simon and Elli Kopmar & Jonah Barrett out in the cold, which leads me to ask, are they injured or split, since they did not compete at sectionals? ...

I think Yao/Simon still are together?
They performed in a show this past weekend, IIRC.

BTW, Krasnozhon, Pulkinen, and Torgashev all qualified for the JGPF. They could, if they wanted, compete at Senior Nationals.

Should any of them?

I don't have an opinion about "should" ... but Krasnozhon has said that he will compete as a Senior at Nats this year, and Torgashev did so last year.

 

[slider11]

How about Alexandra Aldridge and Daniel Eaton in Senior Dance? I think they qualified through Midwesterns.

 

[MFarone]

I'm fairly sure that Pulkinen is competing Jr. at Nationals....can't recall where I read that

 

[ice coverage]

How about Alexandra Aldridge and Daniel Eaton in Senior Dance? I think they qualified through Midwesterns.

Although Aldridge/Eaton did qualify, the topic of this thread is this season's Team USA skaters.

This season, A/E do not have USFS envelope funding and are not in the ISP.

Those listed in the OP are Team USA skaters.

 

[Chemistry66]

Any Senior pairs who did not compete at Sectionals will likely compete at Nationals baring injury. Byes do NOT affect the number of teams qualifying through Sectionals. At least some of the missing teams likely elected not to compete due to 4 or fewer registrants in each section. The only thing byes would affect would be the use of the fill-up rule.

As for Juniors, I'm not sure about Yao/Simon but Kopmar/Barrett train in FL and are thus out of Easterns, so unless dealing with injury, likely elected not to compete and will be at Nationals. Yao/Simon are technically out of Pacifics unless they've recently changed coaches (they're in CO with Sappenfeld) but they could have moved up to Senior nationally and then elected not to compete.

Other notes:

Livvy Shilling was 13th in Seniors at Nationals last year, not Top 5 in Juniors.

 

[dorispulaski]

The following finished in Top Five at Nationals:
Vincent Zhou
Pfund/Santillan
Stellato/Bartholomay
https://www.usfigureskating.org/lead...7/results.html

True but they also skated or will skate in an event that conflicts with sectionals.

I have made the other changes.

 

[dorispulaski]

Yes
But do all the JGPF skaters go to seniors nationals in the US?

Clearly not. Parsons & McNamara/Carpenter competed in Juniors last year at Nationals & Worlds.

 

[Chemistry66]

Sylvia on FSU, who tracks these things every year, has said that there is one Junior pair that elected not to compete (presumably Kopmar/Barrett) and that Yao/Simon are doing Seniors.

 

[Tonichelle]

Gracie needs to be highlighted in Blue.

 

[ice coverage]

... USA Team Envelope skaters may have byes
Those competing internationally during sectionals definitely do.
I have tried to determine which of these skaters have byes, and put the reason for it under their name.
I have also recorded when they qualified atNationals. ...

True but they also skated or will skate in an event that conflicts with sectionals.

I have made the other changes.

Thx for making the changes, Doris.

My understanding of your OP was that you wanted to make note of Top Fives at Nats (even for skaters who would have gotten byes for other reasons too).
That was why I thought it was worth mentioning the Nats results for Zhou, P/S, and S/B.
(Similar to your inclusion of two reasons for Torgashev's bye: qualifying for JGPF + competing at Warsaw Cup.)

Thx again for putting so much information together into one handy-dandy resource.

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Off topic for this thread ... but does anyone know whether Deardorff/Settlage will compete at Nats?

 

[TontoK]

BTW, Krasnozhon, Pulkinen, and Torgashev all qualified for the JGPF. They could, if they wanted, compete at Senior Nationals.

Should any of them?

Absolutely. Torgashev competed admirably at seniors last year.

And besides that, why wouldn't they... the way the Senior US Men have competed recently?

It's not out of the realm of possibility that a great performance from a hungry junior could land him on the podium.

 

[dorispulaski]

Gracie needs to be highlighted in Blue.

Done.

 

[ice coverage]

I'm fairly sure that Pulkinen is competing Jr. at Nationals....can't recall where I read that

Correct re Camden Pulkinen competing as a Junior at Nats this year.

He said so in the new IFS article with Q & As with the three U.S men going to the JGPF: Pulkinen, Torgashev, Krasnozhon.

https://www.ifsmagazine.com/u-s-junior-men-final-showdown/ (very enjoyable article by Brooklee Han)​

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... Off topic for this thread ... but does anyone know whether Deardorff/Settlage will compete at Nats?

Answering my own question with an update from my trip to Skate America:

A reliable source there told me that Deardorff/Settlage will compete as Nats (as Seniors).​