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gkelly

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The rules are that any triple or quad that's repeated must be in combination at least one of those times.

There are no written rules about what it may be in combination with.

So there's nothing to prevent a skater from doing the same jump combination twice.

If the judges don't like the repetition, they could lower their choreography scores.

I think we've seen guys do 3A+2T on occasion, probably hoping for a 3T at least one of those times.
 

4everchan

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The rules are that any triple or quad that's repeated must be in combination at least one of those times.

There are no written rules about what it may be in combination with.

So there's nothing to prevent a skater from doing the same jump combination twice.

If the judges don't like the repetition, they could lower their choreography scores.

I think we've seen guys do 3A+2T on occasion, probably hoping for a 3T at least one of those times.
so it means that a lady who had 3z-3T as her best pass could repeat it and get huge marks on it.. while she doesn't bother attempting other difficult combo?
 
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so it means that a lady who had 3z-3T as her best pass could repeat it and get huge marks on it.. while she doesn't bother attempting other difficult combo?

Yes, but she would not get any more points for 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+3T, 2A as she would for the easier 3Lz+3T, 2A+3T, 3Lz.
 

mrrice

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Does anyone know what Elena Liashenko is up to these days? With her "Interesting Technique" I always wondered if she'd become a coach and pass her "Style" onto a new young skater. I wonder if she'd make a good tech caller. ;)
 

thedybbuk

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As I'm not a competitive skater, I've wondered how difficult it is physically to compete at an event. Specifically, why is someone like Liza looked at like she's crazy for competing as much as she did last season? Why is that many events rare at all? Is it really difficult to skate more than 5ish events a season?
 

Sam-Skwantch

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As I'm not a competitive skater, I've wondered how difficult it is physically to compete at an event. Specifically, why is someone like Liza looked at like she's crazy for competing as much as she did last season? Why is that many events rare at all? Is it really difficult to skate more than 5ish events a season?

Interesting question. I don't think the skaters compete enough myself and while it does take enormous amounts of energy to run thru programs I think when looking at a sport like Ice Hockey there are atheletes playing in 3 games in one week. If they can do it I can't see why physically a figure skater can't. I think the lack of funding and low prize money is a big issue because the travel is so expensive these days.
 
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mrrice

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As I'm not a competitive skater, I've wondered how difficult it is physically to compete at an event. Specifically, why is someone like Liza looked at like she's crazy for competing as much as she did last season? Why is that many events rare at all? Is it really difficult to skate more than 5ish events a season?

Good Question and one I have asked myself as well. I danced in Vegas for one season and it was horrible. Dancing is hard enough but I also sang and I can tell you that Casino's are smoky and that more than likely contributed to our nightly fatigue. What's my point. When I went on tour shortly after finishing in Vegas you'd have thought I was Hercules and I had Stamina to boot.

I think it's very smart for a competitor to figure out what it takes for them to peak at the right time. It will be different for every skater as some won't need to compete as often as others. In fact, I think competing too often can lead to burnout. So, it's up to the skater and their coach figure it out.
 

thedybbuk

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Interesting question. I don't think the skaters compete enough myself and while it does take enormous amounts of energy to run thru programs I think when looking at a sport like Ice Hockey there are atheletes playing in 3 games in one week. If they can do it I can't see why physically a figure skater can't. I think the lack of funding and low prize money is a big issue because the travel is so expensive these days.

I was thinking especially about skaters like Lipnitskaya. Skaters that seem to struggle with competition itself. Instead of only skating A events with tough competitors, it seems like maybe skating 1 or 2 B events like Liza did could be beneficial. Get back on the horse so to speak, against lesser competition.
 

mrrice

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I was thinking especially about skaters like Lipnitskaya. Skaters that seem to struggle with competition itself. Instead of only skating A events with tough competitors, it seems like maybe skating 1 or 2 B events like Liza did could be beneficial. Get back on the horse so to speak, against lesser competition.

This is totally off topic however, since I love tennis, I'm going to ask you anyway. Do you know who Ana Ivanovic is by any chance? She ALWAYS screams "Ajde" after she hits a winner. Is your screen name meant to be "Come on" in Czech?
 

LiamForeman

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This is totally off topic however, since I love tennis, I'm going to ask you anyway. Do you know who Ana Ivanovic is by any chance? She ALWAYS screams "Ajde" after she hits a winner. Is your screen name meant to be "Come on" in Czech?

Just a correction. Ana Ivanovic is Serbian through and through. The word Ajde means come on and is a Serbian word.
 

karne

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As I'm not a competitive skater, I've wondered how difficult it is physically to compete at an event. Specifically, why is someone like Liza looked at like she's crazy for competing as much as she did last season? Why is that many events rare at all? Is it really difficult to skate more than 5ish events a season?

It's exhausting, both physically and mentally. You also have to think about the time it takes to prepare, practice, memorise a program etc, and still work on new elements in between, and build up to the competition, and...
 

mrrice

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Just a correction. Ana Ivanovic is Serbian through and through. The word Ajde means come on and is a Serbian word.

Thank You...............I totally knew that and still wrote the wrong thing. Novak Djokovic also screams Ajde so I should have known since they played mixed doubles for Serbia at the Hopman Cup.
 

charmblade

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Another issue with doing lots of competitions is the travel and jet lag exhaustion. If you were based in Europe and could most of your competitions there it might be ok but if competing more means always jumping back and forth from Japan, North America, and Europe that is unbelievably taxing just by itself.
 

Krunchii

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As I'm not a competitive skater, I've wondered how difficult it is physically to compete at an event. Specifically, why is someone like Liza looked at like she's crazy for competing as much as she did last season? Why is that many events rare at all? Is it really difficult to skate more than 5ish events a season?

I think she was trying to get her mojo back, also I remember reading that for Liza and Mishin they don't get much ice time in Russia so while traveling she can get more competitive experience and better ice time for practice. It was good for her to get into some low pressure events, win a little prize money, rack up some points to up her international ranking and practice.
 

karne

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Another issue with doing lots of competitions is the travel and jet lag exhaustion. If you were based in Europe and could most of your competitions there it might be ok but if competing more means always jumping back and forth from Japan, North America, and Europe that is unbelievably taxing just by itself.

Now think about flying from Australia...
 

Ice Dance

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Interesting question. I don't think the skaters compete enough myself and while it does take enormous amounts of energy to run thru programs I think when looking at a sport like Ice Hockey there are atheletes playing in 3 games in one week. If they can do it I can't see why physically a figure skater can't. I think the lack of funding and low prize money is a big issue because the travel is so expensive these days.

Even athletes who compete in team sports get into trouble, though, from too much competition and travel. (Different food, less sleep, and more widespread access to germs). Team athletes can sit out a game or sit on the bench if they're not healthy; but even so, I can't name the number of times I've seen athletic teams felled by the flu or widespread illness at the championship part of the season. And injuries. There must have been three guys on the all-star lists at our local district basketball tournament last season who had to hobble onto the floor to get their awards. Sure the team is still there; but it's not the team those coaches wanted to show up with. You push too hard and you take yourself out of it. It really is important to know your own body and your own competitive process.
 

Sam-Skwantch

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Why doesn't the ISU catalogue videos from senior GP's on to their YouTube channel like they do with JGP?
 
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