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I say: good riddance!
Are you referring to Gracie, or are you announcing your own departure from this Forum? Asking for a friend.
I say: good riddance!
Additionally, while I'm quite sure the Golds wouldn't let Gracie starve, it's possible that they have cut her off to some degree financially or come to some agreement with her- we will cover $x or x% of your training costs, now that you're an adult. If you want to keep training you need to figure out how to fund the other $x or x% on your own. It's even possible that they are no longer helping her with training costs. I don't know that I think this is particularly likely, but I also KNOW you can't assume about a young adults financial situation based on their parents. For example I have a friend whose father owns the patent on a very lucrative drug and is also a heart surgeon. He is literally a multi mulit mulit millionaire. They cut her off entirely at 19, wouldn't even pay for her health insurance and she had none for almost 5 years due to this. And she hadn't even really done anything 'wrong'- she was a bit financially irresponsible so they were trying to teach her a lesson I think but it's not like she was a murderer or spending money on drugs and alcohol or even in a profession they disapproved of. You really never know.
The problem for Gracie is that her seasons best scores currently have her in 27th. She isn't going to be able to improve on that now. And several women behind her may pass her score (eyeballing it at least 4 people are likely to pass her at Worlds and 4CCs; it is possible that far more than that will). She won't be guaranteed any spots based on this
She is 7th on the World Standings list. She will be lower after Worlds and 4CCs and Euros, but it is mathematically/logistically impossible for her to fall out of the top 24. So she will be guaranteed one spot based on this.
After giving the guaranteed spots (2 to each person in top 12 at Worlds, 1 to each person in top 24 World ranking, 1 to each person top 24 Seasons best) they go down the seasons best list to assign additional spots. Gracie's chances of getting a second spot are very good based on this, but will depend on how far down the ranking she ultimately ends up, and also on how many of the top 12 at worlds and the top 24 in SB and WR respectively do or do not overlap.
Right now, I'd place quite strong odds on her getting 2 spots, but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
The more you give into anxiety the more it steals your life away.
Looking at that video clip of Carolina Kostner's expression leaving Frank for her skate when she was with him, and how similar it is to Gracie's, gives me a whole different expression on Mirai's often-commented lack of expression while she skates...
A drama queen who doesn't actually express during performance....? Or a young girl who has had such a negative reaction to her emotional expressions that she finds a way to shut it down when she skates, and now can't find a way back.
He is her coach. I believe he has some professional obligation to her. If I were someone's coach I would not do something I knew would make them look bad in front of reporters. It wouldn't have anything do do with feeling protective- I would literally consider this part of my job.
If he's so over her that he doesn't care how he makes her look to reporters, he should fire her, end of story.
Carolina was always a headcase until around 2011 when she learned how to compete. Frank had nothing to do with Carolina skating with the same kind of expression.
I started having panic attacks during school my freshman and sophomore year in high school. My anxiety became so bad that I dropped out of school. Honestly, I stopped going to anyplace where there wasn't noise. I would get panic attacks in quiet places. Plus, because I was ashamed about dropping out, I avoided going to places on the weekends to avoid seeing people that I might know. I lived like this for 4 years. Then my aunt offered me a job in an small tax returns office. The office didn't get a lot of business and my aunt almost always had the TV when there weren't any customers. This was when my anxiety lessened, but it didn't go away. My main fear was still school, after all. My fear of quiet places was a manifestation of my fear of being inside a classroom. After a year, my family moved to another city. Without a job and with nothing to do I was back to where I was before I got a job. I decided to get my GED and I started attending college. I had to take several tests to start college in very quiet classrooms. It was horrible, but I didn't have any panic attacks. My first semester was the second summer session and both of my classes were online. The next semester I had 4 online classes and 1 class I had to go to school. This semester is my third semester, I have 3 online classes and 2 classes that I have to go to. Every Tues & Thurs from 9 am to 4 pm. Every time I have to go to class I get extremely nervous but I no longer get panic attacks during class. What helped was changing my way of thinking. Instead of disliking myself for being anxious and nervous, I had to accept that I was an anxious and nervous person. If I get a panic attack the best thing is to do is just let it happen. Trying to stop panic attacks makes it worse. If I get nervous, then it is just something that is going to happen. Accepting it rather than fighting my feelings made them less severe. However, it is easier said than done. Every Tues & Thurs is still a struggle, but it's getting better slowly.
Frank like any other coach is the employee in the coach/student relationship. He can't 'fire' Gracie since he does not employ her. Gracie (or her parents) employed him. What he has done is quit the job like any other employee might do.
Always appreciative when people break those down because sometimes I still have trouble keeping GP assignment rules straight. :think:
If it worked out where Gracie only got one GP assignment, would US be able to use a host pick at Skate America to give her another assignment? I'm thinking that would be especially helpful if, for example, Gracie got one GP and did well, US could give her SA since it will be toward the end of the GP series next season.
That's where the live audience can help. Did you see 14-year-old Tessa Hong in the Nationals free skate? On her first three jumps she was so overwhelmed that her legs literally forgot what they were supposed to do. She did three singles in a row before she got it under control. Even watching on TV I could feel the waves of sympathy and support from the audience. When she finally got it going, everyone was applauding and cheering. Applaud yourselves, audience. :yes:
The audience was great when Tessa skated. They were really trying to pick her up and push her though the rest of the program and as a result she succeeded in turning things around. I was shocked that Gracie didn't get the same. After the SP it was almost dead silence and the LP was too to an extent. The applause felt small and muted. Almost like they were in complete frozen confusion and shock at what they were witnessing and couldn't move to put their hands together. It was very uncharacteristic of the nationals audience, I've never seen it like that before.
you can't really tell if a person is depressed or not....depressed people look normal too. You don't know unless you are living with them.
For a few days, they talk and sound normal, maybe even a bit happy. Then two weeks from now, they are crying in a room and talks of suicide. It is a very sad and real illness. The doctor can operate on your organs and fix you up, but the brain is much harder to control.
Carolina was always a headcase until around 2011 when she learned how to compete. Frank had nothing to do with Carolina skating with the same kind of expression.
When did he have a meltdown?