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When did having the skate of your life mean you get boosted all the way to an OGM?
This seemed to have happened in 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, and in 2014 for the ladies.
When did having the skate of your life mean you get boosted all the way to an OGM?
Do you think Asada deserved PCS less than Lipnitskaia, who had a fall? Also, Asada had a flutz, but she also landed a 3A. And her skating is far superior to Sotnikova's in general. Asada losing to Sotnikova on skating skills is absolutely garbage -- heck even Kostner lost to Sotnikova on skating skills and Kostner's speed and edges are the best out there. Sotnikova doesn't have very deep edges, nor does she always hit the edge she's intending to do (as her footwork shows, sometimes her edges are "halfway there").
Who else's scores rose to that extent?
This seemed to have happened in 1994, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, and in 2014 for the ladies.
So in Vancouver only certain skaters' scores exhibited an exponential, statistically significant increase.I never said "to that extent". Just from glancing at wiki, Asada, Rochette, (probably Nagasu and other skaters) saw big score increases at the Olympics (they both achieved some combination of PBs during that event). Asada's combined scores went up ~55 pts from the beginning of that season to the Olympics, which is 10 pts higher than Kim's ~40 pt increase during that season. Rochette's Olympics LP was ~20 pts higher than her previous PB that season.
Um...so who else should've won during 2006 and 2010?
So in Vancouver only certain skaters' scores exhibited an exponential, statistically significant increase.
Just like Sochi.
I never said "to that extent". Just from glancing at wiki, Asada, Rochette, (probably Nagasu and other skaters) saw big score increases at the Olympics (they both achieved some combination of PBs during that event). Asada's combined scores went up ~55 pts from the beginning of that season to the Olympics, which is 10 pts higher than Kim's ~40 pt increase during that season. Rochette's Olympics LP was ~20 pts higher than her previous PB that season.
Are you purposefully trying to misunderstand the argument, or do you just not comprehend context? In Sochi, only the two Russian ladies exhibited exponential score increases (and Gracie Gold maybe? Due to the tantrum Frank Carroll threw?) that allowed them to surpass and/or match skaters who skated much better (Lipniskaia's PCS vs Mao's). In Vancouver, there wasn't such a nationalistic bias in who received big score bumps and who didn't.
Do you think Asada deserved PCS less than Lipnitskaia, who had a fall? Also, Asada had a flutz, but she also landed a 3A. And her skating is far superior to Sotnikova's in general. Asada losing to Sotnikova on skating skills is absolutely garbage -- heck even Kostner lost to Sotnikova on skating skills and Kostner's speed and edges are the best out there. Sotnikova doesn't have very deep edges, nor does she always hit the edge she's intending to do (as her footwork shows, sometimes her edges are "halfway there").
Mao got higher PCS in the SP, Julia higher PCS in the LP. Why do you think that is? Hint: check the start order.
PCS marks reflect what is exhibited in the program presented, not how skilled the skater is outside the context of the program. Caro basically skated from element to element for half of her program. Her closing footwork was pure magic though.
The amount of the increase is only important if you consider two clean programs. Yuna saw that massive increase over previous clean programs.
Uhm, you said this
Make up your mind please?
Melon, that's what you get with disingenuous people who rely on ex post facto explanations. Often, they will contradict themselves over and over while they go in circles trying to explain an untruth.
Honesty never has contradictions. Dishonesty always does.
Make up your mind please?
I don't buy that Mao's starting order impacted her SO MUCH that a skater who fell later on could outscore her. Judges should have some standards of measurement when judging the Olympics. If you're telling me that judges for the Olympics cannot be trained well enough through all their previous experiences to keep check of their scores (much less not be swayed by crowd cheering), then the ISU might wanna spend some money on judge training.
How is acknowledging start order matters contradictory?
You said PCS marks represent what is exhibited in a performance. But then you said the score was affected by starting order, something that has nothing to do with the performance.