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I know Mao got around 60 for PCs at the previous event and the same goes to Yu-Na here. I have no objection about the PCs they both received, since they are totally well-deserved.
For my part, I still prefer the quality of some of her elements, including the spins, at CoC (I was actually disappointed to see those are graded better here). However I actually realized just now the judges at this event were slightly more generous to everyone than those at CoC. That could be part of the reasons that made me feel so. Sorry if I nitpicked too much on her, but I honestly think she did a a decent job in that performance. She's the only one at this point who's deserved the world-record-breaking score, and I'm totally happy for her.
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I haven't watched yet - and I'm totally happy for YuNa...but i did find it intersting and curious that one poster mentioned a partial standing ovation --- seems like a program with such huge scores would get a rousing huge standing ovation -- so maybe, relative to other events, she was slightly overscored - even though totally deserved the win???
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but would you admit that her jumps were excellent. a 7 triple program, with only a -.20 on one jump. you have to hand it to her.
i agree with you on yuna's spins. although i'm happy that this is not yuna's best in terms of spins, and that she has something to improve upon.
Wait what?
Yu-Na might have been lacking a bit of speed here, but under-rotated jumps? Certainly not.
Yuna's LP didn't exactly blow my mind, but I think the high score is a testament to what she is capable of when she skates cleanly.
The variety of jumps, the solid techniques, and great artistry seem to be paying dividends.
She still has some areas where she could definitely improve on, so I don't even think she's "peaking too early."
IMO, She should get only better come GP Final and the Worlds.
The variety of jumps, the solid techniques, and great artistry seem to be paying dividends.
She still has some areas where she could definitely improve on, so I don't even think she's "peaking too early."
IMO, She should get only better come GP Final and the Worlds.
Nakano is a GOOD Skater. BUT! The PCS scores is inflated and should not have been ahead of Rochette. If the PCS were correct, like they were at Skate Canada, Rochette probably would sneak by with enough points past Nakano....
I'm sorry, judges giving her higher skating skills than Rochette?? Not with that leg wrap........ http://forum.hdldemo.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
I'm sorry, judges giving her higher skating skills than Rochette?? Not with that leg wrap........ http://forum.hdldemo.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Nakano is a GOOD Skater. BUT! The PCS scores is inflated and should not have been ahead of Rochette. If the PCS were correct, like they were at Skate Canada, Rochette probably would sneak by with enough points past Nakano....
I'm sorry, judges giving her higher skating skills than Rochette?? Not with that leg wrap........ http://forum.hdldemo.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
I totally agree. Her leg wraps are just horrific. Her entire body is also not propotional, she has a very long torso and very short legs, which makes her look ridiculous on ice. Her posture is also horrible. I would definitely put Joannie ahead of her by a mile.
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You cna't judge someone down because you don't like their body shape. That's something they have no control over and should conme into play. I do agree on Nakano's posture and her wrap. The wrap drives me insane and I think she should lose marks for it. I also would really like to see Joannie getting the PCS she deserves for once.
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Well, that is not really her fault. Since when is this a beauty contest... I think the judges cannot judge something like that. Joannie cannot get better scores because she is prettier or better built or something like that. I have to agree about the leg-wrap though. The general posture does not seem too bad in my eyes.
If we were giving awards based on looks, Kiira should have won this competition. She is absolutely gorgeous! 
Yukari does what she can with what she has...and I think the judges are taking the wrap into account somewhat; despite the good height and secure landings, she never receives positive GOE on her lutz or flip.
Yukari does what she can with what she has...and I think the judges are taking the wrap into account somewhat; despite the good height and secure landings, she never receives positive GOE on her lutz or flip.
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If we were giving awards based on looks, Kiira should have won this competition. She is absolutely gorgeous!
Yukari does what she can with what she has...and I think the judges are taking the wrap into account somewhat; despite the good height and secure landings, she never receives positive GOE on her lutz or flip.
I don't know if it's because of the leg wrap but her triples always seem very tight on rotation and I think sometimes that is also why judges are not generous toward Yukari. Most of the time she manages to escape downgrades and the landings are not bad either but I've never felt her jumps are "clean" for that reason.
A QUESTION for ANYONE!
Why does one develop a wrap anyway?
I wouldn't imagine that one day Nakano woke up with a wrap and hasn't been able to get rid of it since.
Why wasn't she or anyone else with a wrap able to correct it when she first took up skating???
Why does one develop a wrap anyway?
I wouldn't imagine that one day Nakano woke up with a wrap and hasn't been able to get rid of it since.
Why wasn't she or anyone else with a wrap able to correct it when she first took up skating???
People don't rule Joannie out. Joannie rules herself out by bombing in either the SP or FS. At CoR, she was 10 points out of silver medal position and 13 points out of gold position because she skated a crap SP. Why does she keep doing this? Nerves, and lack of self-confidence. She just can't seem to skate well when the pressure is on. She was able to skate a very good FS at CoR because she was so far back after the SP. Like Sarah Hughes at SLC, she was able to skate well because she had nothing to lose.
I've never seen her live, but from what I've seen in videos and on TV, Joannie would never have been a threat to Kwan in terms of stage presence. To me, she just seems very uptight and nervous all the time. Maybe she lets it all loose at Canadian Nationals, but at international events, I see a tentative skater, not an 'in command' one.
This is the 3rd year in a row that she hasn't made the GPF. She only made it once, in 2004. She was first alternate in 2005 and 2006, and likely will be first alternate this year. The only one who can change this outcome is Joannie herself.
That's entirely up to Joannie. But in the last two seasons, the pattern has been at least one good performance in the GP, a good performance at Nationals, then a not-so-good performance at Worlds.
Maybe Joannie would benefit from seeing a sports psychologist.
When you compare Nakano's legs with Mao's or Yuna's legs, her legs are definitely shorter. However, if you compare her legs with Rochette's legs, I find that there is not so much difference. Rochette does not have a ideal figure skater's body either. On the contrary Nakano's body is more feminine than Rochette's. Rochette looks so muscular, and almost like a woman body builder. I prefer women skaters who really look feminine inside and out.
The only jump that was excellent was her first 2A, IMO. Perhaps her jumps appear excellent because she doesn't pre-rotate as much so we see more rotation in the air. I'll have to take a closer look sometime at Asada's WC FS to compare the two. Anyway, takeoffs are not landings. Her 3Lo was cheated. It had poor height and distance and was so underrotated that Kim had to raise her free leg in front of her to regain her balance. I think if the technical specialist called this program consistently with the way Skate America was called, four of Kim's jumps would've been downgraded and possibly as much of six of the ten. Note the ten jumps rather than eleven jumps. Kim didn't include the 2Lo in her program because the back end of her both her 3Lz+2T and 2A+3T combos were too underrotated. Kim also had a small lip on her 3F. Another thing that made her jumping appear excellent was that the front end of her combos had good height and distance. The back end of her combos and her back edge jumps were not so good.
It's odd that Nakano was able to complete a 3A and yet had two jumps downgraded while Kim didn't even attempt a 3A and had no downgrades.
I agree.
I guess we will see how everyone is judged together come Torino.
I thought Yuna's 3R was a bit underrotated, and perhaps 3T after 2A also,
and there was that shaky landing on her 3Z.
But downgrade 6 of 10 jumps?
Yeah, right.
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