Typical Yuna bots. Come in and hijack a thread for Mao Asada. Why don't you go back to whatever hole you come from.
I wish there's an ignore button.
comment from sneaky Mao bot. lol you are disgracing Ms. Flatt.
BTW, I hate the word "bot".
If people are going to get mad about that, how about they get mad about this year's skate Canada where Mirai got pushed off the podium because Joannie, Alissa, and Laura were given humongous PCS scores for their crappy long programs. Or how about last year at US nationals, where Caroline, Rachael, and Alissa all had FS scores within 2 points of each other and Caroline and Rachael landed 7 triples and Alissa only landed 3. Or how about how Kiira Korpi won silver at CoC with her LP with 3 triples? Or Lysacek for that matter, who has been winning everything recently and has a funky 3a and won't even attempt a quad. WINNING NOW ALMOST ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO PCS.
That's the sad truth.:scowl:
since no one mentions this, let me ask. How the heck Mao always gets credited for her UR 3F-3L in worlds SPs when it had always been downgraded all season long. It happened in 2009 WC SP, and same goes to 2008 if I remember it correctly.
I will not tag the clip, but it's clear that they are severely under-rotated. I don't think I'm biased on this one.
How about her current layout minus 1 3A and add 1 3R. (TES only goes down by 3.2 points. She can make up for that from spins, spiral having the extra prep time used for the 2nd 3A)
3A
3flip-2loop-2loop
3loop-2loop
2A-2loop
3loop
3flip
3toe
6 clean triples will get her on the podium.
and what the heck does this have to do with the topic? ohh god
Not if Joannie, Miki, and Yuna all have 6 or 7 clean triples and do a 3lutz or two. Plus, a bunch of those loops are bound to be DGed. If Lepisto or Costner managed to do even 5 triples I think they would overtake Mao with that layout (not deservedly but they probably would). Plus, it is too late for Mao to change her programs. She got credit for her 3a last year at worlds so I don't see what the big deal is.
Whoever said the thing about Mao's 3-3 getting ratified at WC last year, I feel like the scores are WC last year were very high. Maybe the tech caller was more lenient but we definitely saw a lot of very high scores...
The Yuna bots need an upgrade fast, because it's so easy to spot.
Yea probably. If anything, Mao has a better chance of getting credit for her 3a in the LP than SP. Does anyone think Mao should try to 3lo/3lo next season?
certainly not. Miki's 3F-3L was downgraded which was pretty much the same quality.
How about her current layout minus 1 3A and add 1 3R. (TES only goes down by 3.2 points. She can make up for that from spins, spiral having the extra prep time used for the 2nd 3A)
3A
3flip-2loop-2loop
3loop-2loop
2A-2loop
3loop
3flip
3toe
6 clean triples will get her on the podium.
all I want to say is she's overmarked quite often and at some crucial times. yeah, it's off topic though.
I don't think Mao is interested in just getting "on" the podium. She always wanted to win the gold medal. I don't think she's going to go too conservative. Let's look at your layout:
3A = 8.2
3flip+2loop+2loop = 8.5
3loop+2loop = 6.5
2A+2loop = 5.0 * 1.1 = 5.5
3loop = 5.0 * 1.1 = 5.5
3flip = 5.5 * 1.1 = 6.05
3toe = 4.0 * 1.1 = 4.4
Total jump base points = 39.15
Typical Yuna setup:
3Lz+3T = 10.0
3F = 5.5
2A+2T+2Lo = 6.3
2A+3T = 7.5 * 1.1 = 8.25
3S = 4.5 * 1.1 = 4.95
3Lz = 6 *1.1 = 6.60
2A = 3.5 * 1.1 = 3.85
Total jump base points = 45.45
I don't know if she would want to start 6.3 points behind just in base points. Not to mention GOE which Yuna gets a lot of. I never seen her do a 3Lo-2Lo. Not that she can't do it but it's a bit hard to change what she's been doing. She might as well stick with her "regular" line up with maybe a single 2A instead of 3A:
3A+2T = 9.5
3A = 8.2 or 2A = 3.5
3F+2Lo = 7.0
3Lo = 5.0 * 1.1 = 5.5
3F+2Lo+2Lo = 8.5 * 1.1 = 9.35
3T = 4.0 *.1.1 = 4.4
2A = 3.5 * 1.1 = 3.85
Base jump points total = 47.80 or 43.10 (if singular 2A replaces 3A)
That will give her a much better shot.
Or if she does something like the Japan national arrangement,
3A = 8.2
2A+2T = 4.8
3F+2Lo = 7.0
3Lo = 5.0 * 1.1 = 5.5
3F+2Lo+2Lo = 8.5 * 1.1 = 9.35
3T = 4.0 *.1.1 = 4.4
2A = 3.5 * 1.1 = 3.85
Base jump points total = 43.10