Tatsuki Machida

iceberg · Nov 15, 2014

^ I see thanks WoChair!

iceberg · Nov 15, 2014

But I also can't help but wonder how Javi's not-so-clean-landings SP score in Rostelecom is slightly higher than Machida's clean SP in SA. Oh well, I think judging is really unpredictable. But Javi is a great skater as well and what a fantastic program.

ioanna · Nov 15, 2014

iceberg said:
But I also can't help but wonder how Javi's not-so-clean-landings SP score in Rostelecom is slightly higher than Machida's clean SP in SA. Oh well, I think judging is really unpredictable. But Javi is a great skater as well and what a fantastic program.

PCS. Javi got 44.15 while Tatsuki got 43.74. Their TES was much closer (0.12 points apart).

Silvia451 · Nov 15, 2014

I really like Javi, but this season I prefer Machida. That FS is simply... :bow:

adelia · Nov 15, 2014

So, after watching 4 GPs, Machida's performances remain the best for me.

ioanna · Nov 15, 2014

adelia said:
So, after watching 4 GPs, Machida's performances remain the best for me.

I'm already getting excited for TEB next week :clap:

iceberg · Nov 15, 2014

I;m like crazy excited to see him next weekend!!! I'm crazy to death about his LP. But I wont expect too much cos anything can happen. I will just wish him the very best!!!!

Maria Victoria · Nov 15, 2014

adelia said:
So, after watching 4 GPs, Machida's performances remain the best for me.

I agree (and I hope I don't jinx him).

iceberg · Nov 16, 2014

What I am just worried about is that Javi with his very ambitious BV finished with 171 in his long program and that program wasn't even that really clean. Comparing to Machida's stellar LP of 175. I just wish Machida steps his LP up this coming Bompard.

HanDomi · Nov 16, 2014

iceberg said:
What I am just worried about is that Javi with his very ambitious BV finished with 171 in his long program and that program wasn't even that really clean. Comparing to Machida's stellar LP of 175. I just wish Machida steps his LP up this coming Bompard.

Tatsuki landed only one 3A in LP so he lost a bit of points there in TES. On other hand Javi is doing 3 quads, but only one 3A so there is not so much diffrence on BV between Javi and Tatsuki. Diffrent situation is with Yuzuru because he is planning 3 quads and 2 x 3A combinations in 2nd half and from what I saw on paper he hast 10 points BV higher than Javi and Tatsuki

From what I remember BV is something like : Yuzuru 94 , Javi 85 , Tatsuki 84

ioanna · Nov 16, 2014

Well Tatsuki did lower his BV and not only by doubling his second 3A, he says he actually has more transitions in the program. He aims to perform consistent clean programs because his strategy to win over the others is by positive GOEs and PCS, not by BV.

iceberg · Nov 16, 2014

HanDomi said:
Tatsuki landed only one 3A in LP so he lost a bit of points there in TES. On other hand Javi is doing 3 quads, but only one 3A so there is not so much diffrence on BV between Javi and Tatsuki. Diffrent situation is with Yuzuru because he is planning 3 quads and 2 x 3A combinations in 2nd half and from what I saw on paper he hast 10 points BV higher than Javi and Tatsuki

From what I remember BV is something like : Yuzuru 94 , Javi 85 , Tatsuki 84

Agree, not too much difference in numbers with Javi and Machida's LP(SA).

iceberg · Nov 16, 2014

ioanap said:
Well Tatsuki did lower his BV and not only by doubling his second 3A, he says he actually has more transitions in the program. He aims to perform consistent clean programs because his strategy to win over the others is by positive GOEs and PCS, not by BV.

But the 4T+2T you think that was planned too? He could've 4T+3T.

ioanna · Nov 16, 2014

iceberg said:
But the 4T+2T you think that was planned too? He could've 4T+3T.

His 3A is in combination with a 3T so he only performs a 2T with the 4T.

HanDomi · Nov 16, 2014

iceberg said:
Agree, not too much difference in numbers with Javi and Machida's LP(SA).

I mean overall planned content BV :biggrin:

In SA Tatsuki's BV was lower in LP than 84 as I remember because he done only one 3A and 4T-2T instead of 4T3T, and as Shingalas pointed out he done only 2 combinations

unico · Nov 16, 2014

ioanap said:
Well Tatsuki did lower his BV and not only by doubling his second 3A, he says he actually has more transitions in the program. He aims to perform consistent clean programs because his strategy to win over the others is by positive GOEs and PCS, not by BV.

Machida also only did 2 combos, he completely left out a 3 jump combo. Last season he did a 3F+2T+2Lo in his LP, so if he's looking to include that too this season with his 3F, that's another 9.24-5.83=3.41 increase in BV.

ioanna · Nov 16, 2014

shingalas said:
Machida also only did 2 combos, he completely left out a 3 jump combo. Last season he did a 3F+2T+2Lo in his LP, so if he's looking to include that too this season with his 3F, that's another 9.24-5.83=3.41 increase in BV.

True, I was going to add this. He's probably keeping the 3rd combo for the GPF.

iceberg · Nov 16, 2014

ioanap said:
His 3A is in combination with a 3T so he only performs a 2T with the 4T.

Right. i forgot about that. But has he ever done a 3Lz in combination?

iceberg · Nov 16, 2014

HanDomi said:
I mean overall planned content BV In SA Tatsuki's BV was lower in LP than 84 as I remember because he done only one 3A and 4T-2T instead of 4T3T, and as Shingalas pointed out he done only 2 combinations

Are we going to see 3 combinations this coming weekend? :biggrin:

ioanna · Nov 16, 2014

iceberg said:
Right. i forgot about that. But has he ever done a 3Lz in combination?

Yes, here's a 3Lz-3T at the 2012 Skate America
http://youtu.be/G98366nrdTQ?t=2m25s

His quad was not as consistent back then so he used to put a 4T and a 3Lz-3T in the original Firebird program.

iceberg said:
Are we going to see 3 combinations this coming weekend?

It depends on whether he considers his competition there is stronger than at Skate America.

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