Dee4707 said:Yes, LAURIE, you are.
Dee
Hmmm, Is it a discrimination to bar people under 16 from driving? people under 18 from smoking? people under 21 from drinking? There is no difference (though I do consider 21 y.o. drinking age rather ridiculous)MasterB said:I like to see real women skate too. But I think is very unfair to discriminate someone because of their age, sex, skin color, sexual orientation, and so on and so on. There should be a constitutional amendment or something. Where are activist when you need them, any lawyer will do.
soogar said:Well Cohen is going, barring serious, incapacitating injury. This isn't gymnastics so MK will probably go even if she doesn't make the podium in 2005 Worlds (which I think is a serious possibility). All this talk about Meissner and Katy but with girls that young and small, it probably pays to wait a while before making predictions. If they can keep their level up and post great results at Junior Worlds, I predict that the higher finisher at Junior Worlds will be given that 3rd place on the team.
berthes ghost said:Is "Katy" Taylor's full name, or is she Katherine or something? I Have no Idea if Meissner's name is indeed Kimberly.
It is certainly a form of discrimination but one that is accepted since most people don't want 10-year old kids drinking and driving who probably don't understand the possible consequences of their actions. The same is perhaps true of age limits in skating but there are differences. Age limits don't stop skaters from practicing the big jumps even if they are too young for senior worlds because there are still plenty of competions that they are eligible to compete in where they need to have the jumps in order to be competitive. And they want to be comfortable with all the jumps by the time they are ready for senior worlds. Also, you can drink and smoke for the rest of your life if you want but you only have a few chances to go to a world championships.Ptichka said:Hmmm, Is it a discrimination to bar people under 16 from driving? people under 18 from smoking? people under 21 from drinking? There is no difference (though I do consider 21 y.o. drinking age rather ridiculous)
And, IMO, no one should be getting too starry eyed over former Juniors who do well in a summer comp. Let's see if they can handle the pressure of skating with the big guns at Nats before making any predictions.Joesitz said:It's a slippery sport, Soogar. None of us should get starry eyed about our favorities. [/B] [/COLOR]
Joe
Yazmeen said:Flo: Carol Heiss certainly didn't lack attitude. I bought a copy of SI from the fifities that had her on the cover, and in the article, (before 55 worlds) she commented how only she and Tenley (Albright) had the double axel, but the "other skater" didn't land it on the correct edge!!! (MEOW!!!) She went on to airily declare that she could win Worlds because Gaby (Seifert) had won the year before and she had beaten Gaby in a competition, adding that she'd win the upcoming Olympics and then she'd eventually turn the spotlight over to her younger sister. Carol today is considered a total sweetheart, but she was a walking ego in her eligible days. That story about her pitching a fit at the O's is indeed true. She really embarassed herself and the team. She's lucky she didn't lose her medal for that unsportsmanlike display, but in her mind, she was always the best. While Tenley did win the 56 O's, Carol surprised everyone by winning Worlds that year and every year after up through her OGM in 1960. She at least COULD put the money where her mouth was and wasn't all hype!!!!!
According to a biography of Heiss written for kids that I read as a kid, when Heiss' mother was dying of cancer, she was wracked with pain. Heiss stayed with her in a hotel room with private bath, because baths soothed her mother's pain. The bio said that people, including the press, thought that she thought she was better than everyone else for not staying in dorm-like surroundings with her teammates.Rachael said:Not trying to excuse Carol's behavior but I saw an interview with her a few years ago. She said the reason why she was so upset and threw a fit was because her mother was dying and wanted to win the Olympics before she died.
The bio also talked about how Heiss and her sister collided in practice, which resulted in a career-ending injury for her sister.Rachael said:She went on to airily declare that she could win Worlds because Gaby (Seifert) had won the year before and she had beaten Gaby in a competition, adding that she'd win the upcoming Olympics and then she'd eventually turn the spotlight over to her younger sister.
lil_icesk8er915 said:Congrats to Kimmie! That's pretty darn amazin'! I think it's interesting that Kimmie and Katy Taylor can both do triple/triples (triple lutz/triple toes) and Michelle and Sasha didn't do any the past year. Sometimes all the hype about triple/triples and quads make me a little uneasy, they are really hard on your body and can create a lot of injuries (but can be good when done safely and correctly). I think skating should move more towards the presentation part of skating. That's just my opinion though!
lil_icesk8er915 said:.... I think it's interesting that Kimmie and Katy Taylor can both do triple/triples (triple lutz/triple toes) and Michelle and Sasha didn't do any the past year. Sometimes all the hype about triple/triples and quads make me a little uneasy, they are really hard on your body and can create a lot of injuries (but can be good when done safely and correctly). I think skating should move more towards the presentation part of skating. That's just my opinion though!
But the jumps have to get more difficult if it is to remain a sport
I read this book a long time ago -- when the dinosaurs walked the Earth -- so I need to preface this with a big IIRC. IIRC they were both practicing on the small piece of ice they "rented" out, and Heiss, going backwards, collided with her sister, and her blade severed a muscle in her sister's leg. (I think it was the calf muscle.) .Yazmeen said:I wondered what had happened to her sister--do you know what the injury was?
Thanks!!
Yaz
hockeyfan228 said:I read this book a long time ago -- when the dinosaurs walked the Earth -- so I need to preface this with a big IIRC. IIRC they were both practicing on the small piece of ice they "rented" out, and Heiss, going backwards, collided with her sister, and her blade severed a muscle in her sister's leg. (I think it was the calf muscle.) .