I LOVE Joubert's program. Hope he uses it for the Olympics. I do agree with this 4th place finish here, though. The technical content just wasn't there today. No Quad, one Triple Axel, and a lack of combinations...
Joubert did three combinations (one being the 3S-2A sequence), though it's true none was with a 3T and no three jump combination (I generally dislike those; the final jump tends to look like an afterthought). I hope once his health and conditioning improve, he can up the technical ante and better present the program, which I feel has a lot of potential. He has already said it will be his last LP, so he is keeping it for next year. Also that it's quite challenging and he's not sure he'll be able to get it right this season.I LOVE Joubert's program. Hope he uses it for the Olympics. I do agree with this 4th place finish here, though. The technical content just wasn't there today. No Quad, one Triple Axel, and a lack of combinations...
Exactly what SkateFiguring said. He doesn't need to perform a 3T after the 3F. In fact, if he were to play it safe, he can just do a 2A+2A sequence in the back half of the program to get 6 points instead of the 4 points for the 3T. Or he can drop the 3T to do a 3F+2A+SEQ or 3F+2T+2L combo for close to 7-8 points in the back half.
Joubert has a lovely long program this season. It is not a 6.0 program by any means and a lot of thought and work went to it. Granted, it is not the usual paint by numbers stuff we see so often these days, nor did he perform it as well as he could have today - not surprising, given how sick he was earlier this month and the subsequent loss of training time and stamina. As I wrote earlier, both Joubert and Nan Song are to be commended for even competing this weekend, and both skated fairly well considering what they went through. If Joubert ever does skate the LP well, he will deserve considerably higher PCS than he received today.
Look, there are skaters I don't like much, either (e.g. V/T, D/W). But at least I go to the trouble of watching them skate before pronouncing judgment, and I try to acknowledge their strengths and not just go on about their perceived weaknesses.
glam is correct to point out that Amodio's program is problematic in terms of construction. Go pick on him, considering that he won the LP and medalled, two things that should not have happened.
Please don't cry. I was not impressed by that "international" performance. It is understandable that each singer would not get an equal share, but why were longer phrases all sung by ones whose native language is English? Why were most prominent positions (e.g., beginning and the end) all occupied by them as well? What on earth did that Japanese guy hide in the midst of an all-white fraternity? The inequality could have been easily justified had they all sung in English. But they didn't. They sang in their native tongue. The fact that English is the lingua franca has been reflected by the greater number of English-speaking singers. It is not necessary to further give them more important roles.how can you not be taken with this? How can your heart not be lifted? – though don’t tell me if yours isn’t, I might cry
Please don't cry. I was not impressed by that "international" performance. It is understandable that each singer would not get an equal share, but why were longer phrases all sung by ones whose native language is English? Why were most prominent positions (e.g., beginning and the end) all occupied by them as well? What on earth did that Japanese guy hide in the midst of an all-white fraternity? The inequality could have been easily justified had they all sung in English. But they didn't. They sang in their native tongue. The fact that English is the lingua franca has been reflected by the greater number of English-speaking singers. It is not necessary to further give them more important roles.
Had it started with the French (Les Misérables is a French novel after all) and ended with the Japanese, the message conveyed through that performance would have been totally different, that is, the cultural spread from French to various cultures, even to Japanese, the least expected candidate.
Anyway, I didn't get a good feeling after watching that performance, another ethnocentric performance that they called "international"--that's what I thought.
Finally got time to watch the Men's LP. Loved Jeremy and Brian's programs! Not so much the others.
Congrats to the medal winners!
Here is Brian's Gala Exhibition, very, very nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2tQrnz-NOU&feature=plcp
This is an acceptable proposalButtercup, my oops! I'll make up for it with a massive PM.
Yes, Joubert definitely looked pretty exhausted, and he knew that physically the LP would be tough - said so in the post-SP press conference, too. He'd only been back on the ice for three-four days before TEB, and had lost a fair bit of weight (and presumably, energy/stamina) while he was ill.Finally watched Brian's Lp. I feel that he was trying to give more energy than he had. The whole time, I was thinking he needed rest.
Actually I watched Joubert´s freeskate twice, once from live streaming and the second time from tv. It looks a 6.0 programme to me, with a very simple basic choreography which gave him possibilities to do his jumps . And I was not that much impressed by his footwork either.
I see you chose to address a specific point I made, but it kind of proves what I was saying yesterday: every program Joubert does or has done seems to elicit the same reaction from you; you repeat "he was overscored on PCS, he has 6.0 programs". This, regardless of the PCS he receives (it wasn't high yesterday by any means) and regardless of the program content. There are never any positives.
Then Hanyu, Takahashi and Amodio LP scores are also waaaaaaaaay too high (just the first three coming up to my mind).Yes, it is true that I keep mentioning the above, but that is the exact impression I have gotten from his programmes. And in my opinion 6.79 for his "transitions" and 7.36 for choreography are still high.
Then Hanyu, Takahashi and Amodio LP scores are also waaaaaaaaay too high (just the first three coming up to my mind).
Takahashi has almost no transitions either this year, the same for Hanyu, he just run from one element to another (don't talk about interpretation because there's no).
In fact, most of the men LP are overscored if Joubert's is (from what I've seen).
But I overall agree with you, Joubert is overscored, although for me he's just not the worst of all this year and his scores are nowhere near what it used to be for even emptier programs. Just watch Amodio's LP and cry. I didn't know mohawks are transitions.