2013 Worlds Ladies SP

[creme cup]

I miss the days when there were no denominator in GOEs.
Poorly executed jumps should be clearly dismissed.

 

[Mrs. P]

Looking at the protocals, Ashley did fine. She got positive GOE on her elements. Basically what cost her is that she got level 3s on two spins instead of the level 4s she got at GPF. That's .9 right there.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm not trying to be mean to any skater, but how can an obviously double-footed 3A receive GOE of +0.14?

I'm on the floor with this.

It's just unbelievable. Not only was it two-footed, it was also very noticeably cheated (under 1/4). GG judges.

Kostner. WTH. I cannot comprehend how a program with a fall is second-best over several clean programs. That is the worst judging of this Worlds so far.

It is very easy to comprehend. Kostner had the best skating skills by far, the best choreography by far, the best transitions by far, the program was presented beautifully and that fall aside absolutely everything else was of exceptional quality.

 

[FSGMT]

Now, may I ask: what do you want to complain about? All the scores and the marks were pretty fair, the only thing that could have been a little better was the combo GOE for Carolina, that would put her in 3rd place, more or less 0.2 behind Kanako... Would this really make any difference?

 

[hurrah]

Actually, when you look at the protocols, it kind of makes sense. I actually don't think the scoring of the elements are that out of line. (I have always thought that Yuna was a consistent lipper and that she was getting away with it all along.) And all the tweaking is done through PCS.

I think Kanako was majorly under-scored. Her artistry and interpretation was far better than any of the skaters today.

 

[Mrs. P]

Also I was correct about Viktoria. She got all level 4s. Which is pretty amazing considering the ice wiped everyone else during their spins!

 

[sky_fly20]

Imagine Russia having 1 lady to go with it's 1 man.

1 man and 2 ladies more like it
I had this also in the dream Adelina gets the highest of the russians although it was 58+

my dream in ice dance V/M will lead

 

[FSGMT]

It is very easy to comprehend. Kostner had the best skating skills by far, the best choreography by far, the best transitions by far, the program was presented beautifully and that fall aside absolutely everything else was of exceptional quality.

:agree::thumbsup: Ok, now I'll sto writing posts about Carolina's score, you got my point, I think

 

[bigsisjiejie]

Looks like her GOE on her other elements made up for the -1.70 on her combo. Though I'm unsure why she didn't get straight -3s. Isn't that the policy with a fall?

That's my point. She didn't deserve all the GOE benefits that she received.

 

[parma]

I realize after seeing Carolina's score that Yuna and Murakami deserved a lot more points. Carolina's PCS is higher than Yuna's? Please.

 

[koatcue]

odd but now I think of it, Liza has never skated a clean SP
she might be punished for her inconsistency and if only 2 spots
Julia and Adelina might go, hope not :no:

Yeah...I thought about that too...It's awful to think that in order to get close to Osmond, she needs her pb and EVEN that won't be enough if Osmond skates relatively clean

 

[pohatta]

There would have been room in the Top 5 for a solid 64 point Kiira. I wonder what the underaged Russian girls think of their prospects for next year.

 

[bigsisjiejie]

Now, may I ask: what do you want to complain about? All the scores and the marks were pretty fair, the only thing that could have been a little better was the combo GOE for Carolina, that would put her in 3rd place, more or less 0.2 behind Kanako... Would this really make any difference?

Carolina shouldn't have been much above 60, down maybe around 8th place. And yes, this makes a huge difference. She could earn a medal she doesn't deserve.

 

[Ziggy]

I think Kanako was majorly under-scored. Her artistry and interpretation was far better than any of the skaters today.

If anything she was overscored. Second 3toe was slightly cheated, 3flip was slightly cheated. Her back is stiff and there wasn't much else in her reaction to the music than moving her arms up and down.

Ambitious element layout which paid off but the program was meh.

I don't understand how you can say that her interpretation was far better when you had skaters who had far more upper body movement, used their whole body to interpret the music and that movement reflected the character of the music very well. Murakami has a lot of work to do in that area still.

 

[bigsisjiejie]

If anything she was overscored. Second 3toe was slightly cheated, 3flip was slightly cheated. Her back is stiff and there wasn't much else in her reaction to the music than moving her arms up and down.

Ambitious element layout which paid off but the program was meh.

Your opinion only. I thought it was one of the most enjoyable programs of the day.

 

[Mrs. P]

I really don't have a huge problem with Carolina's score, honestly. I agree with Ziggy that the program, besides the fall, was very well executed and she hit the non-jump elements well too.

 

[pangtongfan]

I think alot of you complaining about some of the scores like Kostner supposably being too high, Osmond too low, etc...are forgetting skate order makes a big difference in the scores. It also doesnt mean the judges are wrong either, it is human nature to consider there are skaters left and you dont know what they will do.

I think Wagner or Osmond have a good shot at the bronze. No way Murakami stays in 3rd, she was never a good LP skater. Mao will still probably get 3rd if she skates even decent though.

 

[parma]

If anything she was overscored. Second 3toe was slightly cheated, 3flip was slightly cheated. Her back is stiff and there wasn't much else in her reaction to the music than moving her arms up and down.

Ambitious element layout which paid off but the program was meh.

I thought Murakami was able to get what she got because of her backloading of the triple jumps.

 

[Colanboy]

Your opinion only. I thought it was one of the most enjoyable programs of the day.

I agree.

 

[berrycute]

Prepare for the Carolina haters...

and the Alena lovers. This board is cray-cray sometimes.