To my fellow german goldenskate members, there is a positive side to S/S's bronze medal: We didn't have one yet in the medal chart and now we do.
These Olympics are bringing out the worst in people, I've found, I think, in years. Applauding someone else's misfortunes that benefit "your" team/skater/favourite, useless name calling between PEOPLE on message boards... We're all human. We all love who we love and don't need to explain to anyone why we love them. They all tickle our heartstrings in some way because of what they do or have done. While one person might find their preference in skating is more relatable to P/T vs S/S or the "connection" we feel between D/W vs V/M... we're all different. They're all different. This a judged sport. Everyone has opinions. And regardless of how we feel and who should have placed where and when, unfortunately the only opinions and professional opinions at that, that mattered today, were the opinions of the judges, judging a judged sport.
To each's own.
To my fellow german goldenskate members, there is a positive side to S/S's bronze medal: We didn't have one yet in the medal chart and now we do.
(..) What's extremely frustrating, though, is that if any other team tried to skate S/S's programs, they probably wouldn't able to perform a single jump clean and they'd be totally out of stamina before the second half has even started. That's the perspective that all of those who perpetuate the 'skater X should lose because he/she/they fell' discourse never seem to consider. I remember when Valentin Nikolaev came to Poland to do a coaching seminar. Skaters from the national team were doing all of the demonstrations. A lot of the exercises he had them do was performing their usual elements but from different and unusual entries. They almost killed themselves and it was very entertaining to watch.
S/S won't have the gold but they'll be remembered for exceptional programs and pushing the sport forward. We see more skaters being creative with the transitions or attempting th3flips nowadays. Small mercies.
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Volosozhar/Trankov dealt with the pressure and delivered in both programs but again the scores were just insane and I don't understand how they can be justified by what was executed in their program. The one mark that particularly sticks in my mind is 9.96 for IN. I thought they skated through the music for the majority of their program. I mean the least you can do is cross-overs to the rhythm or movements and elements placed and executed in such points that they are done to the accents or on the beat. The other thing that really jumped out at me in that program was the 'let's take a break to catch our breath' point in the middle with Max skating around Tanya standing still followed by some posing. CH and TR wise, it was really lacking. A strong performance of a poorly designed program.
All of the above does make you raise questions and I am quite surprised some people see doing so as some kind of anti-Russian cold war plot. I would have felt the same way if the skaters in question were from any other country.
And before anybody says that it's hypocritical to question the Russian skaters' marks whilst Savchenko/Szolkowy were 'gifted,' they were deducted appropriately for their two falls (-3 GOE across the board and -2.00) and it's not like they have given up and skated around looking pissed off, performing the rest of their program like they couldn't care less. They fought until the end and the two falls aside all of their other technical elements as well as PCS aspects were executed to a very high standard.
Where the heck do you get this stuff from..... looks like you make it up as you go along!
Thank you. Could not have said it any better myself.
Wow. It's like you sat in front of the computer and said, "what could I write that would really offend the Canadians at Golden Skate?" The problem with your "theory" about Salt Lake is that Jamie & David's "whining" was justified, since Marie-Reine LeGougne DID, in fact-admittedly-cheat by not judging what happened on the ice.Yes, they had a higher number of bogus victories than any pair in the last 30 years, and when they actually lose a close event they arguably should have won (I can see how that was a shock to their senses after almost Chan like judging bias in their favor for years) they whine to the point of turning it into a Games overshadowing event rather than congratulating their rivals who had been blatantly robbed by them several times in the last year alone. I have tried to erase them from my memory completely, so please dont bring them up again, lol!
Yes to this. People are also seeming to miss that S/S got warm applause at the beginning of their program, 10 seconds into the program when the grand melody kicked in. This despite being the rivals of V/T. The Russian teams did not get this (the Russian crowd seem sensitive to certain music choices).
It's natural that a fall like that would create at least a sort "rumble" in a crowd sitting nervously in such heavy anticipation of a victory for their team. I think it likely that the cheering after the fall was a mix of the "good" and the "bad" kind. Anyway it's not like they were obnxiously hooting and hollering over it, or something.
right. this should be removed
I mean Abbott, Reynolds are Olympic medalists
That's a good idea, it could be like a TROPHY instead.
But then that would kind of miss one of the goals, Which was giving more medals, No ?
Well skating enthusiasts will want more skating no matter what. Besides the x winter sports are only events because they bring in viewers, they are great with advertisers and the US does wel at them and the US has a huge market in respect to viewers.One could easily argue many of them should not be olympic events.
If you are referring to Peng & Zhang, do remember he will be 33 by the next Olympics. I do think they could be serious contenders by then, but wouldnt say they have a better shot than a team with both partners in their young 20s who are already winning medals.
Sui & Han have an iffy future considering his lack of height. They will do well to even make it to the 2018 Games for China. Stolbova & Klimov probably have little to worry about from them.
Which younger Russian pair has the quad twist right now? I havent followed the junior pairs much the last 2 seasons.