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Brian Orser felt her Olympic skate was the best when he broke down the three podium winners at Sochi and I have watched the top ladies in the world skate this season and I only see the presentation of Mao, Gracie and Ashley as having what draws me in to programs. I have not seen Polina Edmunds but last year I felt she needed to be repackaged as a senior.
Ina sport increasingly dominated by tiny teens in singles men's or ladies I really love to see the taller girls or the actual women I have mentioned above. Satoko miyahara is lovely to watch but like Julia I feel I am watching a child not a woman and the need for out of control, meaningless footwork sequences continues to turn me off.
In dance there are themes and in pairs tricks need some u is on stroking to set up the throws etc.
I like Chartrand and see her talent but these ultra busy programs that don't stop for a minute or show elongated lines just leave me cold.
The fact that Mao is still appreciated and that Kostner can won or placed when older with less triples tells me the judges long to see beautifully choreographed to the music programs. I find myself losing interest when the need for speed is still king and everyone does the very same fugly spins.
Gracie Gold says it's a jumping game and that explains where Liza is now but is she moving anyone with her programs? Does her choreographer break down in tears like the very experienced even jaded perhaps Lori did very time Caro performed her Ave Maria?
I guess I'm wondering if the fan base now has been raised on the " new " judging system and thinks that the direction singles has taken makes for beautiful skating?
A few skaters manage to perform and leave us with images moments and lines but I find them in a minority and generally older. I wonder what the demographics of the fans looks like now?
Julia was a child and I didn't care for all the contortionist moves in Schindler's List but she moved many of us with the perfect blend of music, costume and a character known to us. It was an iconic program and I wonder looking at this years offerings will these tiny technicians ever grow up to look and skate like the women that are gone? I really disliked Julia 's programs packaging and I'm rooting for her after grabbed our hearts two years ago.
I guess it is a comment and a question on who is still watching from the 6.0 days? Will we ever have a world champion like Carolina again? Gracie can do it all given confidence and the right choreography. She still has a way to go but I thought she was so much better PCS wise than the winner of the SA event. Even if her flip was doubled She skates with such strength line and maturity. No she is not yet in the league of Carolina but her build combined with her ss pcs and jumping ability make me hopeful. I don't think she will still be skating at 26 but she could grow into the artist. It seems singles for ladies is for teenagers now. There isn't enough opportunity I guess even for the very best skaters to develop to their very best performance wise.
Amidst all this technical prowess from very small teenagers I am looking for the performance to move me and given many of the choreographed routines I have watched it doesn't seem like it is even a goal anymore of the teams putting together these programs. Each discipline is special and ladies I feel has suffered in some key ways from the IJS.
I hope Ashley Mao and Gracie can bring us to feel the performance. I will never forget certain programs because the music and choreography were not sacrificed for just obviou
s point getting moves that meant nothing and are even annoying.
Maybe a thread entitled most moving programs will hilight those little works of art we should pay attention to.
Pairs and Ice dance seem to still have time for those moments our brains can take a snapshot of and recall forever. Ladies please move us. Sometimes less is more. Sorry so long. I miss the mature beauty and the best of the show skating! Looking to be inspired.......!!!!
Ina sport increasingly dominated by tiny teens in singles men's or ladies I really love to see the taller girls or the actual women I have mentioned above. Satoko miyahara is lovely to watch but like Julia I feel I am watching a child not a woman and the need for out of control, meaningless footwork sequences continues to turn me off.
In dance there are themes and in pairs tricks need some u is on stroking to set up the throws etc.
I like Chartrand and see her talent but these ultra busy programs that don't stop for a minute or show elongated lines just leave me cold.
The fact that Mao is still appreciated and that Kostner can won or placed when older with less triples tells me the judges long to see beautifully choreographed to the music programs. I find myself losing interest when the need for speed is still king and everyone does the very same fugly spins.
Gracie Gold says it's a jumping game and that explains where Liza is now but is she moving anyone with her programs? Does her choreographer break down in tears like the very experienced even jaded perhaps Lori did very time Caro performed her Ave Maria?
I guess I'm wondering if the fan base now has been raised on the " new " judging system and thinks that the direction singles has taken makes for beautiful skating?
A few skaters manage to perform and leave us with images moments and lines but I find them in a minority and generally older. I wonder what the demographics of the fans looks like now?
Julia was a child and I didn't care for all the contortionist moves in Schindler's List but she moved many of us with the perfect blend of music, costume and a character known to us. It was an iconic program and I wonder looking at this years offerings will these tiny technicians ever grow up to look and skate like the women that are gone? I really disliked Julia 's programs packaging and I'm rooting for her after grabbed our hearts two years ago.
I guess it is a comment and a question on who is still watching from the 6.0 days? Will we ever have a world champion like Carolina again? Gracie can do it all given confidence and the right choreography. She still has a way to go but I thought she was so much better PCS wise than the winner of the SA event. Even if her flip was doubled She skates with such strength line and maturity. No she is not yet in the league of Carolina but her build combined with her ss pcs and jumping ability make me hopeful. I don't think she will still be skating at 26 but she could grow into the artist. It seems singles for ladies is for teenagers now. There isn't enough opportunity I guess even for the very best skaters to develop to their very best performance wise.
Amidst all this technical prowess from very small teenagers I am looking for the performance to move me and given many of the choreographed routines I have watched it doesn't seem like it is even a goal anymore of the teams putting together these programs. Each discipline is special and ladies I feel has suffered in some key ways from the IJS.
I hope Ashley Mao and Gracie can bring us to feel the performance. I will never forget certain programs because the music and choreography were not sacrificed for just obviou
s point getting moves that meant nothing and are even annoying. Maybe a thread entitled most moving programs will hilight those little works of art we should pay attention to.
Pairs and Ice dance seem to still have time for those moments our brains can take a snapshot of and recall forever. Ladies please move us. Sometimes less is more. Sorry so long. I miss the mature beauty and the best of the show skating! Looking to be inspired.......!!!!
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and by opposition to Mao or Patrick, i don't think her programs marked me... she was great... and I am sure she was special to watch live with her stature and speed, but on tv... we don't get that so, nope.. not going to miss her... if she comes back, I won't be unhappy ... but if she doesn't, meh.. there are SO MANY ladies in the field... I can barely keep up 
