I posted this in the event folder, but haven't really gotten a reply so thought I would ask the questions here. Here is what I posted in the other thread
I still find the GOEs hard to understand. I went to look at the protocols today and am puzzled for instance by Ashley Wagner's sp 3lutz fall which had GOEs of -2 and -3. I thought a fall always meant a -3, but maybe this has been changed. Also her layback spin, level 3 had GOEs ranging from +2 to -1 which I don't understand.
Sasha SP had scores on her 3lutz/2t of +1 to -2. I don't get it. If the GOEs were 0 and 1 or 2 and 3s I could understand it - but the spread really confuses me.
I was in Spokane for Nationals and was quite impressed with the Skatebug radio which allowed me to listen to a technical specialist (not working the event) to call the levels. No longer can a skater just go out and get into the music and only have to concentrate on the jumps. They have to count rotations in spins, changes of position/foot, seconds in the spirals. The footwork is a nightmare - not only do they have to do a variety of turns they must be spaced over the ice surface, mohawks, counters, loops, etc. can only be done 2 times or the extras don't count. I have often wondered why there is so little Level 4 footwork - its because in addition to the arms and torso being involved the head must also be involved. When the head is involved it must occur a certain percentage of the footwork - so what we have IMO is flapping, flinging, bowing to try to get the level 4.
My real question here tho is about the GOE spread in a skaters program for a single element (at whatever level is assigned). I used the examples above simply because they stood out to me, I am sure there are plenty more in the protocols.
Any input would be appreciated.
Maureen
I still find the GOEs hard to understand. I went to look at the protocols today and am puzzled for instance by Ashley Wagner's sp 3lutz fall which had GOEs of -2 and -3. I thought a fall always meant a -3, but maybe this has been changed. Also her layback spin, level 3 had GOEs ranging from +2 to -1 which I don't understand.
Sasha SP had scores on her 3lutz/2t of +1 to -2. I don't get it. If the GOEs were 0 and 1 or 2 and 3s I could understand it - but the spread really confuses me.
I was in Spokane for Nationals and was quite impressed with the Skatebug radio which allowed me to listen to a technical specialist (not working the event) to call the levels. No longer can a skater just go out and get into the music and only have to concentrate on the jumps. They have to count rotations in spins, changes of position/foot, seconds in the spirals. The footwork is a nightmare - not only do they have to do a variety of turns they must be spaced over the ice surface, mohawks, counters, loops, etc. can only be done 2 times or the extras don't count. I have often wondered why there is so little Level 4 footwork - its because in addition to the arms and torso being involved the head must also be involved. When the head is involved it must occur a certain percentage of the footwork - so what we have IMO is flapping, flinging, bowing to try to get the level 4.
My real question here tho is about the GOE spread in a skaters program for a single element (at whatever level is assigned). I used the examples above simply because they stood out to me, I am sure there are plenty more in the protocols.
Any input would be appreciated.
Maureen