Let's just pretend everyone lands on their back right foot.
Take Off Foot With Toe Without Toe Right Inside Right Outside Toe Loop Loop Left Inside Flip Salchow Left Outside Lutz (Backwards Axel)
So my questions are, well, first off, how wrong have I got this?
Second why are there no right inside edge jumps? Is there a reason beyond not wanting to deal with another Lutz/Flip/Flutz/Lip situation for edge calls?
Also, is the Axel and evolution of trying to do a Toeless left outside edge jump/toeless Lutz? I am wondering if the front facing takeoff is just do to it being a pain in the donkey to take off that way backwards/too close to a Salchow.
So in trying to keep jumps straight. . . I put them in a table of sorts to kinda think things out. Yes I know some people land with their left foot. . . but it is easier for me to think this way and swap it for the skater than deal with opposite or same. Let's just pretend everyone lands on their back right foot.
Take Off Foot With Toe Without Toe Right Inside Right Outside Toe Loop Loop Left Inside Flip Salchow Left Outside Lutz (Backwards Axel)
So my questions are, well, first off, how wrong have I got this? Second why are there no right inside edge jumps? Is there a reason beyond not wanting to deal with another Lutz/Flip/Flutz/Lip situation for edge calls? Also, is the Axel and evolution of trying to do a Toeless left outside edge jump/toeless Lutz? I am wondering if the front facing takeoff is just do to it being a pain in the donkey to take off that way backwards/too close to a Salchow.
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FWIW, the line that by far helped me start to keep jumps straight was a guild that flat out said something to the effect of "All jumps land on the same back outside edge" That little piece of info really helped to get things clicking into place for me (Until it was spelled out I assumed the landed on different feet for different jumps, I tend to over complicate things - I kept trying to use the landings as a clue to what jump it was. . .
New question. Can a skater be marked for two footing a take off? Sometimes I see skaters do loops (I think - Pretty sure at least I have caught this when an announcer calls it a loop at least) where it looks almost like the skater takes off from a back right outside edge (i.e. normally unless I am confusing myself again) with the left foot crossed over the right foot with its outside edge still on the ice. Sorta like they hit the air position before taking off and jump off both feet at the same time almost. Similarly with the Salchow, it almost looks like they are taking off form both their left inside back edge while their right foot is still on the ice (for a long time it frequently looked to me it was taking off the right foot). Is there a rule for this?
Can a skater cheat and take off with two feet sorta, is that part of why we see quad Salchow attempts, can you get some extra ummph from the other foot? Does the non take off foot need to get off the ice according some sorta of rules regarding time and height?
I might be wrong about this, but I think that the reason the ISU does not allow backflips is that they don't want children practicing them with inadequate supervision and breaking their necks.
... 3. What do skaters usually do right after a competition? Do they hangout with other skaters and catch a bite? Go home/hotel? Catch a team bus?
3. What do skaters usually do right after a competition? Do they hangout with other skaters and catch a bite? Go home/hotel? Catch a team bus?
Just wondering, starting this season in a 3?-1Lo-3S/3F sequence it still counts as a 3 jump pass (eg like 3?-2T-2Lo) but the 1Lo doesn't get the points anymore right?
Jumps
ELEMENTS REQUIREMENTS (see also Clarifications on the back of the page)
1) Full rotation: signs < and << indicate an error. The base values of the jumps with a sign < are listed in the column V1 of the SOV table. The jump with a sign << is evaluated with SOV for the same jump one revolution less.
2) Correct take-off edge in F/Lz: signs “e” and “!” indicate an error. The base values of the jumps with the sign “e” are listed in the column V1 of the SOV table. The sign “!” allows to keep full original base value of the jump. If both signs < and “e” are applied for the same jump, the base values are listed in the column V2 of the SOV table.
Hi! Just when I thought I could translate IJS protocols I realise I still have a lot to learn! Can someone translate this spin for me please?
FCCoSp3p2V1
I got Flying change combination spin... then I'm utterly lost! :think:
Thank-you!
ELEMENTS REQUIREMENTS Spins
1) For flying spins (with no change of foot and only one position) of both Short Program and Free Skating the following are required: a) a clear visible jump; for Junior Short Program only it’s also required for the skater to reach the prescribed air position; b) basic landing position must be reached within the first 2 revs after the landing and from the moment this position is initially reached it must be held for 2 revs after the landing. The sign “V1” indicates that one of these requirements is not fulfilled, sign “V2“ indicates that both these requirement are not
fulfilled.
2) For any spin with change of foot: at least one basic position on each foot is required. Sign “V1“ indicates that this
requirement is not fulfilled.
The base values of spins with the sign “V1“ are listed in the column V1 of the SOV table. The base values of spins
with the sign “V2“ are listed in the column V2 of the SOV table. The base values of spin combinations with 2 or 3
basic positions (at least 2 revolutions in each of these positions) are reflected in the SOV.
I thought FC meant flying camel, not flying combination, but I guess I am wrong.
I thought FC meant flying camel, not flying combination, but I guess I am wrong.
I was my head a lot. FC is Flying Camel but the guidelines list the combination as (F)CCoSp3p. What is (F) ? I assume an option if it is a flying spin? I'm more confused after attempting to decipher this honestly. I think a Flying Camel is just FCSp3 on most protocols where as CCoSp3p is combination with a foot change. I need an expert to set me straight. I'm far too novice.