Scott Moir on the difficulties of sharing a coach with their chief rivals

[blackswanphoto]

"she designed a free dance for the U.S. duo, Scheherazade, that was distinctly more entertaining and becoming than the Petit Adagio, with its disjointed music"

http://www.thestar.com/sports/sochi...lects_longrunning_momentum_shift_dimanno.html

Absolutely hilarious article!

 

[WeakAnkles]

I wound up liking Tessa a lot more after the show. She came across as a very nice, genuine person, with the exception of one thing: her insistence that she doesn't know how to flirt. I was like, Oh come on, after that Carmen program it's a little too late to play the innocent ingenue anymore. LOL!

 

[Mrs. P]

I wound up liking Tessa a lot more after the show. She came across as a very nice, genuine person, with the exception of one thing: her insistence that she doesn't know how to flirt. I was like, Oh come on, after that Carmen program it's a little too late to play the innocent ingenue anymore. LOL!

Acting flirty is one thing. Being flirty is another thing all together! It's easy to be sexy when it's choreographed. You can't choreograph actual, you know, dating, you know?

 

[gmyers]

I hope moir sues for contract breach.

 

[WeakAnkles]

Acting flirty is one thing. Being flirty is another thing all together! It's easy to be sexy when it's choreographed. You can't choreograph actual, you know, dating, you know?

I know. Story of my dating life [/sad trombone].

 

[Barb]

"she designed a free dance for the U.S. duo, Scheherazade, that was distinctly more entertaining and becoming than the Petit Adagio, with its disjointed music"

http://www.thestar.com/sports/sochi...lects_longrunning_momentum_shift_dimanno.html

Absolutely hilarious article!

But Carmen was much more interesting and better program than Sherezade, I think Marina really put all her effort and inspiration in Carmen. But I am starting to believe that simply it was a very difficult program for Tessa and Scott.

 

[blackswanphoto]

But Carmen was much more interesting and better program than Sherezade, I think Marina really put all her effort and inspiration in Carmen. But I am starting to believe that simply it was a very difficult program for Tessa and Scott.

No way. It was entertaining because it was sleazy, seamy, sorbid and classless (the panty-sniffing lift was just too much) but it was not a better program. Something about the last 1/3 of the program was really unfinished. It was kinda the same with their latest program. The last 1/3 is just kinda there.

 

[snowflakebeautiful]

Davis and White did not march in the opening ceremony. They dressed, took pictures and stayed in the village because they had to skate team the next day. So she must have marched with the American team including the Shibs but she did not march "with" Davis and White.

Bingo! And why shouldn't she march with the two newbies in the Olympics? Some of their complaints just make them appear childish, imo.

 

[bekalc]

But Carmen was much more interesting and better program than Sherezade, I think Marina really put all her effort and inspiration in Carmen. But I am starting to believe that simply it was a very difficult program for Tessa and Scott.

Marina didn't choreograph that.

 

[Barb]

Marina didn't choreograph that.

No?? So who?, I know a lot people think it was vulgar, in the spanish forum is called "pornocarmen" , but I really liked, it was different to another carmens, to difference of predictable and cheap swan lake of elena and nikkita.
Eta. Thanks Mrs. P

 

[Mrs. P]

No?? So who?

Jennifer Swan, right? But I thought it was a collaborative effort WITH Marina though...

 

[ice coverage]

The headline for the same article on Yahoo said they questioned their coach's loyalty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/defeated-skaters-virtue-moir-coach-39-loyalty-153930406--oly.html

Headlines in general are notorious for being overblown.

 

[Ryan O]

The headlines try to portray the story in the most dramatic fashion, yes, but they do still capture the central essence of the issue - V&M feel D&W received some preferential treatment.

 

[ice coverage]

The headline for the same article on Yahoo said they questioned their coach's loyalty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/defeated-skaters-virtue-moir-coach-39-loyalty-153930406--oly.html

The headlines try to portray the story in the most dramatic fashion, yes, but they do still capture the central essence of the issue - V&M feel D&W received some preferential treatment.

My caution about headlines was a response to the usage specifically of "loyalty," which I think is a pretty loaded word. Did Moir himself actually use the phrase "questioned her loyalty"??

 

[Ryan O]

My caution about headlines was a response to the usage specifically of "loyalty," which I think is a pretty loaded word. Did Moir himself actually use the phrase "questioned her loyalty"??

No, that phrase does not come up in the Globe & Mail piece on the interview. But I think the writers of these articles are trying to come up with a term/emotion/word that fits the overall sense of what V&M were trying to say. But as you point out, it's a matter of interpretation, and language can be very ambiguous, thus the phrase 'lost in translation'!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...cans-for-coach-marina-zoueva/article16929908/

 

[blackswanphoto]

Another article with absolutely the most hilarious skating comments I ever read:
http://espn.go.com/olympics/winter/...ir-upset-split-allegiance-coach-marina-zoueva

 

[Mathman]

"Speak now or forever hold your peace." Scott had eight years to raise questions if he was uncomfortable with his coaching situation. Now he must hold his peace.

 

[Dots]

I wound up liking Tessa a lot more after the show. She came across as a very nice, genuine person, with the exception of one thing: her insistence that she doesn't know how to flirt. I was like, Oh come on, after that Carmen program it's a little too late to play the innocent ingenue anymore. LOL!

I was rolling my eyes when watching that cheesefest. If I were Meryl Davis I would be furious. They went out of their way to make Meryl some sort of villain. Ughh just no!

Congrats to Marina for doing a fantastic job with both couples this last year!

 

[bekalc]

"Speak now or forever hold your peace." Scott had eight years to raise questions if he was uncomfortable with his coaching situation. Now he must hold his peace.

He was asked about it though, I'm not sure why he's suppose to say it was all lovely and grand. If Marina did make them feel that way, I'm not 100% she deserves to have this party line of everything was wonderful and grand. However, I do think its on them. They really should have left. Its not the first time a Champion has felt that their coach is more enamored with the up comers. See Grishuk/Platov, and K/P. They left and the decision to leave won them Olympic Gold. I think B/A made the right choice too, even if they didn't end up with gold.

Even sometime a new pair of eyes, can help you improve. I suspect they'd have less regrets.

 

[slider11]

Marina ends up the winner. Stay classy and speak the facts - "you were first, now you're second." Davis and White get silver for this one (sorry, only one gold) ...focus on yourself, praise your coach and applaud your competition for helping you become who you are. Scott and Tessa.... sorry, no bronze...maybe lead...something that sinks and rusts...