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no proof of course about everything ! just gossip gossip gossip like chickens in a coop making a lot of gossip noiseProof?
no proof of course about everything ! just gossip gossip gossip like chickens in a coop making a lot of gossip noiseProof?
again I listened to (non-Russian) commentators during Yuna's free program, noting imperfect reception on a triple lutz, saying that the results would be tight, then that her program was maybe not enough to beat Sotnikova.
It's obvious why the judges didn't notice it -- because the competition was rigged. It made no difference what the skaters did. Even Lipnitskaia (a 15 year old junior with no acclaim a month before Sochi) fell all over herself for two days and still earned a score high enough for the bronze at last Olympics. If she hadn't fallen down she probably would have scored over 230 herself.
we recognize indeed the Italian exuberance! I listened to the end, he says that Yuna was perfect, but finally recognizes that she lacks a triple jump over Sotnikova, that her 2nd triple lutz was not perfect, that Sotnikova presented an Olympic program. The commentator says the interpretation of Yuna was above...and that figure skating is not just accounting...
we recognize indeed the Italian exuberance! I listened to the end, he says that Yuna was perfect, but finally recognizes that she lacks a triple jump over Sotnikova, that her 2nd triple lutz was not perfect, that Sotnikova presented an Olympic program. The commentator says the interpretation of Yuna was above...and that figure skating is not just accounting...
which is an error, since in fact, all the elements have their value !
we recognize indeed the Italian exuberance! I listened to the end, he says that Yuna was perfect, but finally recognizes that she lacks a triple jump over Sotnikova, that her 2nd triple lutz was not perfect, that Sotnikova presented an Olympic program. The commentator says the interpretation of Yuna was above...and that figure skating is not just accounting...
which is an error, since in fact, all the elements have their value !
Judges should have caught her under-rotated jumps and wrong edges. This part is very objective part of judging and cannot be argued. When they say that the triple cost her 5 points, they are referring to just long program. FYI, If you sum up sp and lp, the base-value difference is just 1.44 points. The commentator said yuna's second 3lz wasn't perfect. yes but it definitely wasn't a jump that was going to be penalized. He said that it won't change anything.
Don't make me belittle Adelina Sotnikova. I don't want to. But I am extremely displeased by judges' decision over Adelina's performance. Judges should have caught her under-rotated jumps and wrong edges. This part is very objective part of judging and cannot be argued. When they say that the triple cost her 5 points, they are referring to just long program. FYI, If you sum up sp and lp, the base-value difference is just 1.44 points. The commentator said yuna's second 3lz wasn't perfect. yes but it definitely wasn't a jump that was going to be penalized. He said that it won't change anything.
it is normal that commentators enjoyed this beautiful program, the choreography, and Yuna has so many qualities.oh please
http://vimeo.com/88149429 CBC
it is normal that commentators enjoyed this beautiful program, the choreography, and Yuna has so many qualities.
everyone noted the small error in the jump...so Yuna and Adelina were not perfect...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgXKJvTVW9g
discussion between the commentators after 5'45: superb, she has nothing left, but it is very closed, there is room, a difference of 5 points in technical elements, not good enough ...
I am just speaking about the free program and the commentaries on TV. Of course, a skater can win even with a fall. Yes the italian commentator said that the mistake in this jump won't change anything , but it is "his" opinion ! why are you focusing ONLY on Sotnikova's minore mistake and do you forget the one made by Kim? Not adding a triple jump costed Yuna the gold.The commentator said yuna's second 3lz wasn't perfect. yes but it definitely wasn't a jump that was going to be penalized. He said that it won't change anything.
If only it were just gossiping and rumors...they have also launched attacks on Adelina, Russia, Putin and Cinquanta.:disapp:no proof of course about everything ! just gossip gossip gossip like chickens in a coop making a lot of gossip noise
Don't make me belittle Adelina Sotnikova. I don't want to. But I am extremely displeased by judges' decision over Adelina's performance. Judges should have caught her under-rotated jumps and wrong edges. This part is very objective part of judging and cannot be argued. When they say that the triple cost her 5 points, they are referring to just long program. FYI, If you sum up sp and lp, the difference is just 1.44 points. The commentator said yuna's second 3lz wasn't perfect. yes but it definitely wasn't a jump that was going to be penalized. He said that it won't change anything.
2014 is not 2010. Skaters have improved. In 2010, I agree that Yuna was the better, however, I (and others) did not accept a so large gap between Yuna and Mao (more than 18 points in the free program), one might think that Yuna has been widely overscored in 2010.
Death threats were already sent to her, her social media sites have been disfigured by the legions of Yuna hooligan fans. She is only 17, and her "mistake" to suffer vilification and her life made hell was to be awarded OGM over Yuna, who has already pocketed her first OGM. Yuna's fans are determined to RUIN Adelina, a 17yr old and a very good figure skater in her own right, for shame!
As for SP & LP, the judges for SP awarded Adelina TES GOE marks HIGHER than Yuna, despite a 1 pt TES BV advantage for Yuna. How do you explain the conflict of interest there?
Already for SP, judges marked Adelina as a technically stronger skater.
Statistically, you can't take total GOE of one skater and compare that to another, as the Base Value of their technical elements are different. It's comparing apples and oranges. So more accurately, we need to arrive at a RATIO of TES/BV
GOE awarded as a RATIO of TES are as follows
Yuna = 35.89/31.43 = 1.142
Adelina = 35.55/30.43= 1.168
Adelina's award over Yuna for SP = +0.026
The LP BV difference is 3.94.
Adelina's total TES/BV = 75.54/61.43 = 1.229
Yuna's TES/BV = 69.69/57.49 = 1.212
Adelina's award of GOE over Yuna = +0.017
So the judges during the SP was even MORE generous towards Adelina's GOE than those in the LP.
Long time no see I previously stated that I despise those who give personal insults to others. And I am deeply ashamed of them and furious at them . And You are exaggerating too much dude. Those guys are not even figure skating fans and shouldn't listen to them. I don't consider those immature people as fans of anyone.
And you are not comparing TES on the short program. That score is PCS my friend
And TES/BV on your LP. It only indicates the biased judging. You know that they didn't even mark wrong edges and under-rotation, right?
Thank you for pointing out!
So the SP RATIO of TES/BV
Adelina = 39.09/30.43 = 1.285
Yuna = 39.03/31.43= 1.242
Adelina's GOE (as a ratio of BV) AWARD over Yuna's for SP = 1.285 - 1.242 = +0.043
In contrast, Adelina's GOE (as a ratio of BV) over Yuna's for LP = 1.229 - 1.212 = +0.017
SP judges awarded GOE to Adelina (advantage over Yuna) = 0.043/0.017x100% = 250% MORE than LP judges.
So it is BIGGER than what I pointed out, thank you for correction.
If you want to go after FRAUDULENT judging please go after those SP judges first, because they gave Adelina much higher GOE marks vs Yuna than the LP judges.
Therefore I don't understand the huge eruption, the slander, libel, accusations, etc., over the LP judges, the Russian judge who hugged Adelina, the corrupt Ukraine judge , etc. when the SP judges were apparently "more corrupt" than the LP judges.:sarcasm:
How was Adelina's SP scored before Sochi? I mean her highest SP before Sochi?Yeah, that's what I was thinking all this time. Since everyone is so caught up in lp scores, they seem to have forgotten all about sp. I don't know if there was a corruption or something going on between their backs, but one thing is sure, that the score was favorable to Adelina in total, with all the GOEs and PCS she received, whether it was the judges' intention, or mistake.