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2016 Team Challenge Cup - Gen Info/Pre-chat

Wow the entire South Korea vote for Bychenko (11573 voters, more than any other country)
http://s12.postimg.org/nox9evsbh/bychenko.png

And surprisingly, Koreans loves Kuchvalska too (12927 voters)
http://s24.postimg.org/fh9zedv79/kuchvalska.png

2018 Winter Olympics will be hilarious.

If this event works out (that is, if it makes money), it might alternate every other year with the WTT.

Sorry but WTT seems a fairer competition. (Japan doesn't have the tendency to inflate the scores so much, and they don't have this voting system to choose the skaters)
 
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Sorry but WTT seems a fairer competition. (Japan doesn't have the tendency to inflate the scores so much, and they don't have this voting system to choose the skaters)

All of that is true, but I don't see how that is relevant to the question of whether the TCC will be held in years when there is no WTT.
 
Radionova was actually winning in Korea right after I voted for her... I actually voted for Bychenko because I felt sorry for him but if it were like this now I guess I'd vote for Kovtun(though I don't really care about this one).
 
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Sorry but WTT seems a fairer competition. (Japan doesn't have the tendency to inflate the scores so much, and they don't have this voting system to choose the skaters)
The competition hasn't even started, the fan vote has not ended and it's already unfair competiton? :noshake: I personally like voting idea, although not sure if the way it's done is the best.
 
The competition hasn't even started, the fan vote has not ended and it's already unfair competiton? :noshake: I personally like voting idea, although not sure if the way it's done is the best.

It's unfair because we all know USA and Russia, it would be more interesting to see this event hosted in a neutral country, like GPF in Spain.
 
It's unfair because we all know USA and Russia, it would be more interesting to see this event hosted in a neutral country, like GPF in Spain.
Sorry, I'm not going to respond to such level of reasoning.
 
If they can mobilize the same voters who put So-youn Park ahead (~80,000!) they can easily put Kuchvalska on the team... :devil:
I think the priority for the Korean automated voting bots is So Youn, otherwise the Japanese automated voting bots will put Rika ahead.

So I don't think they will switch any of their resources into generating Angelina votes.
 
I think the priority for the Korean automated voting bots is So Youn, otherwise the Japanese automated voting bots will put Rika ahead.

So I don't think they will switch any of their resources into generating Angelina votes.

It's just so sad how Americans don't give a s*** about voting for North American skaters. :noshake:
 
You can't blame the Koreans for being "automated voting bots" because the Americans also have the same opportunity to take that role, but they're just not interested. :disapp:
 
Russians are not voting very actively :(. I don't think we will be able to have influence on the outcome regarding our own skaters. All will rely on Japan... and S.Korean Radionova fans :) (27% is not bad given the nature of voting for this event)
 
You can't blame the Koreans for being "automated voting bots" because the Americans also have the same opportunity to take that role, but they're just not interested. :disapp:
NB. When I say "automated voting bots", I'm talking about unattended computers, running software that automatically generates votes 24 hours a day. Which could be the work of just a handful of people.
 
NB. When I say "automated voting bots", I'm talking about unattended computers, running software that automatically generates votes 24 hours a day. Which could be the work of just a handful of people.

Exactly. That is what I meant by automated voting bots too. If Americans were actually interested, I don't see why we wouldn't also have running software that generates votes 24 hours a day, especially considering how our nation is the mother of Apple.
 
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Personally, I love the idea of having a country based team competition one year, and a continent based team competition the next. And I agree with those that say that it should still be held in an Olympic season.

But, if the rules remain the same as they are for this year's edition, then I would prefer to see the TCC scrapped.

I've already passed comment in a few posts earlier in the thread (about 30 pages ago! :rolleye: ), but I think now would be a good time to re-visit what I said.

Firstly, there are not enough teams. And the rules are too restrictive in what countries are allowed into each of the teams.

There may not be many of them competing internationally, and they may not be high enough in the World Standings to be in consideration at the moment. But it is just not right that South American and Australian skaters are not even eligible.

If the Aussies keep progressing at the rate they currently are, in a few years time, I could see them as genuine contenders for a spot in the country-based team competitions. So it is not fair that the current rules for the TCC mean they are not eligible for consideration for the Asian team.

A few days ago, I posted my latest "little project", in which I divided up the figure skating world into 4 regions. Well, in a previous comment in this thread, I used those same 4 regions as suggestions for Team names.

Although, after the controversy over which countries are Eastern European and which are not, I am having second thoughts over having 2 separate European teams! :laugh:

I agree with the principle of 2 team members being chosen based on the World Standings, and the remaining member being chosen by the Team Captain. But, I hate the public vote element (see this comment)

At the time I first found out about it, I hated the public vote because I thought it would just turn into a popularity contest. But, if people on here are correct, it has actually turned into something more sinister. Trying to get particular skaters into other teams to help give their own team a better chance.

Maybe I'm not cynical enough (I'm one of those people that doesn't believe that tactical voting happens at the Eurovision Song Contest - it is just neighbouring countries having similar tastes in music), but I'm not so sure if this is actually what is happening. But if it is, then I am disgusted that "fans" of the sport would even think of doing it, never mind actually doing it. And, more than that, if this is the case, then I am ashamed to be called a fan as well.

In summary, the TCC is a great idea in principle, but the rules they have come up with have really spoiled it. And in more ways than I would have thought was possible.

CaroLiza_fan
 
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Also those statistics are not correct. At all.

Basically, I´m from Brazil, and as it has a very low number of people voting, I can pretty much track my own vote. In theory.
In practice, i´m certain my vote is not showing up =D

Maybe it will take another day to compute, who knows?
 
Sorry but WTT seems a fairer competition. (Japan doesn't have the tendency to inflate the scores so much, and they don't have this voting system to choose the skaters)

Huh? We have no idea whether this even will be inflated or not and the voting gives a chance to participate to skaters such as Kuchvalska or Bychenko or Liam Firus who would never make it otherwise. It's different, not less fair. I see the voting as a nice touch in a low-pressure post-Worlds event.

Though I admit that a system "all skaters must be from different countries" would be even better, although Team America would have to dig out some skaters from Southern America or join forces with Australia ir something. For something that has "World"in its name it's not represented enogh.

At least, I certainly hope there are just a few cheaters with bots set up and not an entire army of mentally disturbed Yuna psychofans working around the clock to sabotage Russian skaters.

Bye bye moral high ground. What's the difference between you and them again, because I can see none.
 
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It would be easy enough to throw Australia in with Asia, South America in with North America, and Africa in with Europe, as skaters from those regions become eligible based on world rankings, etc.

But I think we are taking this all too seriously. I am pretty sure that the USFSA got their heads together and tried to think of some kind of show that someone might be interested in seeing. Then they said, hey, why not try to drum up some publicity by having a hokey fan voting thing. Let's have "team captains" -- blasts from the past -- to hype it. Lets' put up some big pictures of gracie Gold. They beat the bushes for corporate sponsers and found one in Japan. Somewhere along the way they ran the idea past the ISU, which said OK but you have to follow ISU guidelines. And here we are.

Will there be another? Lets' see whether this one is a success or not and go from there.
 
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Also those statistics are not correct. At all.

Basically, I´m from Brazil, and as it has a very low number of people voting, I can pretty much track my own vote. In theory.
In practice, i´m certain my vote is not showing up =D

Maybe it will take another day to compute, who knows?

It's based on the IP address.
It's something you can manually change if you know how. (To avoid Geo-block)
 
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