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So ISU want to lobby for skaters to improve their all-rounded skills in skating, spins, jumps by... lowering the points for spins and steps. Epic!
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The thing is, I think the idea does have logical merits behing it (unlike other stuff).
But, and this is a huge BUT, if they don't formally declare a Serious Error and the document continued to be worded with "should", there's whole can of worms waiting to be opened.
But different errors affect PCS differently. Or should. I can see how a fall might interfere with the PCS but would a single stepout really affect interpretation/composition/peformance that much? Would multiple small errors affect PCS more or less than a single serious error? How about underrotations and edge calls? Are they serious enough to be contemplated here?
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Heh, I think it's more Animal Farm. "We are equally downgrading all quads, but some quads are more equal than others."
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But you can get your choreo sequence to be worth more, though! Silver lining! /s
Dudette, at this point it is not clear if ISU knows what ISU wants.
Overall, it looks like they were trying to please a bunch of different feds, and it ended up being THIS.
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Viva la revolution of spread eagles!
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Everyone does spread eagles though. I vote for single bent-forward Ina Bauers to be the only ~Choreographic sequence~ to get the quality & originality bullet point! :dance:
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Honestly, overall, the absolutely only comment I can come up with: :disagree:
The ISU should hire some circle-running lab rats to just randomly jump on pieces of paper with potential rules written on them, couldn't get any worse and could save them time/money. When 3A<< is worth more then 3A<, you know the poor lab rats couldn't do worse.
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Heeeey, maybe they already have! Head-canon-ing.
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Do those mandatory GOE deductions start from zero, or can you find some positive criteria say on a fall or a stepout and subtract from there?
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Skating gods: You know what, in this off-season, Medvedeva is leaving Eteri for BOrser, Savchenko is coaching the Knierims, Trankov is coaching T/M, every ice dance team ever is moving to Montreal, ...
Us: Damn, the skating gods are smoking some good stuff
The ISU, apparently: Hold our beers.
Us: Damn, the skating gods are smoking some good stuff
The ISU, apparently: Hold our beers.
^^^This.
Like just???? What?
But then actually rare quads like 4A and the 4Lo get a downgrade in favour of 4F, 4Ltz. Like, why not?
It seems like this +/-5 GOE is just going to mean more granularity which again seems completely against the stated goals of this whole endeavour.
All I can see is that there is now further penalties for under rotations and potentially fewer tanos; maybe judges will find it more work to award a +5 vs the old +3 :sarcasm:
Actually, currently, it didnt look like judges were counting the checkpoints. It was more like "ok, this looks good, so forget steps into jump and whatever, +2 on that", or "ok, this is a top skater, whatever this person does is good, so +2/+3 without watching even".
Pretty sure they will keep doing it whatever the scale is.
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“I really want to love this sport but ISU is discouraging me.” - say all the skating fans ever.
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Maybe the ISU wants to kill the sport. We know they're cutting time to save money, so if they kill the sport, they can keep all the money they want!
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And just when the top guys are getting comfortable with the multiple quads too
Like during the transitional period from Vancouver to Sochi, people were falling all over the place and the Olympics was a nightmare, I still wouldn't agree to downgraded quad value, but I would've understood it. But now, when the top guys are gaining more quad consistency, with the Olympic champion having the highest success rate for quads and the World champion having just done two 6-quad free skates back to back, now they are lowballing quads, and selectively too? Ugh 
