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She might become a super-Sotnikova but what kind of tours and endorsements are you referring to? The ones that even non-Olympic winners do?
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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She might become a super-Sotnikova but what kind of tours and endorsements are you referring to? The ones that even non-Olympic winners do?
Increased page totals to match increased GOE scale this season
russian ladies are still ahead of the whole planet, in GOE and in page number =D
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You disclosed Eteri's secret!
Now she will attempt to make you an Olympic champion too. In ladies.
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Please, RusFed, don't do 9-5 again! There's no use in it!
Except to give valuable international experience to many young skaters.
Thus insuring that when the favorites inevitability hit puberty or get injured there are several more lined up to take their place in the senoir ranks who already have international experience.
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"When" "Inevitably"
Or maybe they don't, and there are other things to consider. You don't need to insert some doom and gloom in every otherwise sensible post. Vasilieva is older than Trusova/Shcherbakova, by the way
it is not about international experience.
Look, Zagitova won everything in her first junior year. Then, she won everything in her first senior year, including OG.
The top talents do not need to be "given experience", they just go and get it. Nobody will deny Shcherbakova a second JGP spot after she got gold at her first, she granted herself plenty of international experience by her own merits. Second tier skaters will not "line up" if any of the top hit puberty or gets injured. They will not be able to fill in the spot.
As for 9-5, the main point about it may be ISU related, rather than rusfed related. I am pretty sure that ISU would be majorly unhappy with one country hogging a whole JGPF in any discipline, for purely marketing reasons.
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Inevitably? Why is it inevitable that all of the Russian favorites will get hit by puberty or be injured? That seems really pessimistic.
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Um yeah? Don't you remember when Evgenia was derailed by poohberties 4 years in a row? Which is why she became double world champ, went to the Olympics, and won two medals there but ughhh...she got hit hard. It's okay if you don't believe me. I'll just keep writing this over and over so it will inevitability become true at some point.
But she did get derailed by injury. It allowed Alina to gain moment and eventually take the OGM that arguably she had tied up neatly before it happened...Um yeah? Don't you remember when Evgenia was derailed by poohberties 4 years in a row? Which is why she became double world champ, went to the Olympics, and won two medals there but ughhh...she got hit hard. It's okay if you don't believe me. I'll just keep writing this over and over so it will inevitability become true at some point.
I always thought US has the worst bodycount of promising juniors derailed by injuries and puberty.
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Not exactly sure where the debate is LOL Several juniors don't go big in seniors. Puberty, injury, several factors are there. Making a point against one country's junior program doesn't (well, shouldn't) mean that someone thinks other countries are fine.
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Maybe in an alternate universe.
Her NHK FS performance last season was a bit painful to watch as a viewer. Must have been very painful for her to skate with a broken foot. Glad that she made the decision in the best interest of possibly having a long-term skating career and is now training with Orser, a coach who has an excellent track record of leading senior skaters to long-term success.
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Didn’t they get all the junior medals? So whatever they did seemed to work.
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Debate's in considering it a done deal that people will lose their jumps due to puberty or get injured, which is rather rude and pessimistic. Injuries happen in figure skating regardless of country, anyway. Also, not sure what "point" you're referring to, didn't see one...
On topic, seems like Tarakanova might have to have a good competition at Moscow cup or she'll get her JGP assignment stripped away. I wonder who'd be in line to replace her if that were to happen?
Only had 5 JGPF spots. 6 should be possible.
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Cool. :thumbsup:
Anyway, I do think the ones who are assuming it is a done deal are being presumptuous.
Yeah, all three of the seniors he's lead to success, one of whom left him.
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A recent interview with Polina Tsurskaya (finally some news from her :agree
. https://fs-gossips.com/polina-tsurskaya-i-realized-that-i-urgently-needed-to-change-something/
Some notable quotes:
The work has become much more individual (at CSKA). In the former group everything was based on constant competition, rivalry. You look at what someone is doing on the ice and you also try to reach that. In CSKA, coaches try to divide all athletes to be able to work with everyone individually. To work separately on jumps, skating, choreography. To be honest, I didn’t like work based on rivalry. It doesn’t suit me very much.
I realized that I urgently needed to change something. Perhaps, not only to change the coach, but myself, my attitude to training, the approach to work in general. And it turned out, that I need to leave the group at any rate. My parents have been hesitating for a long time, they tried to keep me from this step, tried to change my mind. I continued to go to trainings, but one evening I returned home and said firmly: “That’s all.”
She also said she tried to keep up with the other girls at sambo doing crazy jumps but because of the way her body naturally is (really tall), it created problems for her. Her coaches there tried to reduce the load of her work sometimes but she would herself want to keep up with others and keep pushing herself so she was the reason why some of her injuries happened. So basically she didn't seem to have been able to deal with the competitive atmosphere at Sambo and needed to get out for her own good. I'm happy she shared those details. That answers a few questions we all had. She seems to be in a happier place. I hope she has a great season.
. https://fs-gossips.com/polina-tsurskaya-i-realized-that-i-urgently-needed-to-change-something/Some notable quotes:
The work has become much more individual (at CSKA). In the former group everything was based on constant competition, rivalry. You look at what someone is doing on the ice and you also try to reach that. In CSKA, coaches try to divide all athletes to be able to work with everyone individually. To work separately on jumps, skating, choreography. To be honest, I didn’t like work based on rivalry. It doesn’t suit me very much.
I realized that I urgently needed to change something. Perhaps, not only to change the coach, but myself, my attitude to training, the approach to work in general. And it turned out, that I need to leave the group at any rate. My parents have been hesitating for a long time, they tried to keep me from this step, tried to change my mind. I continued to go to trainings, but one evening I returned home and said firmly: “That’s all.”
She also said she tried to keep up with the other girls at sambo doing crazy jumps but because of the way her body naturally is (really tall), it created problems for her. Her coaches there tried to reduce the load of her work sometimes but she would herself want to keep up with others and keep pushing herself so she was the reason why some of her injuries happened. So basically she didn't seem to have been able to deal with the competitive atmosphere at Sambo and needed to get out for her own good. I'm happy she shared those details. That answers a few questions we all had. She seems to be in a happier place. I hope she has a great season.
In this universe. (Nobody cares about post Olympic worlds)
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But they only needed 5 to win all three medals and still allowed more girls to get international experience.
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