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That's making a hasty bet. Alina had 1 knock-out competition in 2018-2019 and it's amazing that it was at Worlds, but 1 awesome competition and people are ignoring the Nationals and Europeans. Had Anna/Alexandra/Alena been age eligible, she wouldn't have had a European Championship and would have been banking on 3 very consistent skaters to skate so abysmal at Europeans that the Fed would do a skate-off at Russian Cup, and that she would win that.

As of right now she has weaker technical content than Shcherbakova and Trusova and we all know (based on past seasons) their PCS will rise quickly if they win medals early in the season - she won't have much of a PCS advantage over them come the later part of the season. I'm not saying she's going to fall off a cliff and be a skating disaster but she won't have the room for error that she had this past season because she doesn't have an equal technical content to some of her competition. And people have mentioned she's got knee issues, so that could hamper her ability to get a triple axel or quad consistent enough to put them in competition. To be at the 'top' (Worlds) she's gotta make it out of Nationals first.

And other people are ignoring all the other competitions where Alina skated clean.

Kihira, for example, nearly never skated 2 clean programs last season, and bombed entirely twice, still people are not saying DOOM DOOM DOOM.
 
That's making a hasty bet. Alina had 1 knock-out competition in 2018-2019 and it's amazing that it was at Worlds, but 1 awesome competition and people are ignoring the Nationals and Europeans. Had Anna/Alexandra/Alena been age eligible, she wouldn't have had a European Championship and would have been banking on 3 very consistent skaters to skate so abysmal at Europeans that the Fed would do a skate-off at Russian Cup, and that she would win that.

As of right now she has weaker technical content than Shcherbakova and Trusova and we all know (based on past seasons) their PCS will rise quickly if they win medals early in the season - she won't have much of a PCS advantage over them come the later part of the season. I'm not saying she's going to fall off a cliff and be a skating disaster but she won't have the room for error that she had this past season because she doesn't have an equal technical content to some of her competition. And people have mentioned she's got knee issues, so that could hamper her ability to get a triple axel or quad consistent enough to put them in competition. To be at the 'top' (Worlds) she's gotta make it out of Nationals first.
She won multiple competitions last season and she will win multiple competitions next season! There is no reason to believe otherwise. Her training mates still have to be able to handle the pressure and deliver without falling multiple times. That in my experienced opinion will be a process for them. Some of this depends on health of course and Alina was injured at Nationals with horrible burns on her ankle and she had a hematoma on her ankle the size of a hot dog at Grand Prix final free skate. Hopefully she can be completely healthy next season and then we will see a great Alina. If someone is greater than her next season so be it. But I expect her to be great if healthy.
 
And other people are ignoring all the other competitions where Alina skated clean.

Kihira, for example, nearly never skated 2 clean programs last season, and bombed entirely twice, still people are not saying DOOM DOOM DOOM.
Yep. One thing for sure it's going to be interesting and exciting for all of us next season. To everyone I say get your popcorn ready! ;)
 
I could see Alina in the Rus Team next season, based on her reputation. Maybe alongside Anna and Sasha.
But is she really motivated to continue? Is she even training right now? We know that all summer long she will have shows, and be in Japan... so, shows and endorsements.
This is not typical for Eteri's skaters, who is known for hard training based on repetition.
As for Rika, it is normal to not be so consistent as her content was really risky with three 3 Axels.
 
I could see Alina in the Rus Team next season, based on her reputation. Maybe alongside Anna and Sasha.
But is she really motivated to continue? Is she even training right now? We know that all summer long she will have shows, and be in Japan... so, shows and endorsements.
This is not typical for Eteri's skaters, who is known for hard training based on repetition.
As for Rika, it is normal to not be so consistent as her content was really risky with three 3 Axels.

She was not doing ten thousand Eteri runthroughs even before the worlds.

I guess we'll see. If she continues she should be prepared it will not be win win win everything anymore. If she can handle that (her perfectionism was holding her back this season) and be healthy (learn to say no and take break when injured.... again this was problem this season), she could be quite successful. But she is already a big name. Companies will not ditch her just like that.
 
She was not doing ten thousand Eteri runthroughs even before the worlds.

I guess we'll see. If she continues she should be prepared it will not be win win win everything anymore. If she can handle that (her perfectionism was holding her back this season) and be healthy (learn to say no and take break when injured.... again this was problem this season), she could be quite successful. But she is already a big name. Companies will not ditch her just like that.

She didnt do that because she started to skip training. Daniil decribed it in the last interview.
 
And she done the best in all season when she did not train so much.

She did better at Nebelhorn Trophy and Japan Open. At Worlds she had some underrotations (uncalled) and shaky landings. The idea is that she cannot always rely on her good luck and favorable panel.
Nevertheless, her athletic body can belp her to be in the top if she continues. The issue here is if she is really eager to continue.
 
She did better at Nebelhorn Trophy and Japan Open. At Worlds she had some underrotations (uncalled) and shaky landings. The idea is that she cannot always rely on her good luck and favorable panel.
Nevertheless, her athletic body can belp her to be in the top if she continues. The issue here is if she is really eager to continue.

She had one (1) shaky landing at worlds, but I looked at it in slo mo and I actually think it was just rotated (it was borderline either way). I agree that Nebelhorn/Japan open freeskates were ever so slightly better, but not by too much, and that worlds sp was the best she's done all season, especially that combo :love:. Either way, she gave spectacular performances that were certainly better than anything since and including the GP with less training (apparently). What I don't get is why people continue to doubt why she would be eager to continue, when she's said nothing other than wanting to continue skating for herself. But I guess she will have to keep proving people wrong by doing what shes doing :pray:.
 
Sasha Trusova just announced that she'll be portraying the character of Daenerys from Game of Thrones in her Free Program to the music Pray by Matt Bellamy. I think that the soundtrack could work well for her but I am quite concerned with how age appropriate it may be, considering that she explicitly mentioned the character Daenerys.
 
But is she really motivated to continue? Is she even training right now? We know that all summer long she will have shows, and be in Japan... so, shows and endorsements.
oh... so should we say goodbye to all Japanese skaters along-side with USA skaters? Who're doing even more shows right now and will be doing even more shows all summer long ? :scratch2::confused:
It will be so sad not to see neither of them..... Shoma, Rika, Evgenia, Nathan, Liza, Vincent, Kaori, Satoko and Mai, Jason, Mirai, Bradie, Wakaba and everybody else. oh gosh, I will really miss all of them. :(:sad21:
 
Sasha Trusova just announced that she'll be portraying the character of Daenerys from Game of Thrones in her Free Program to the music Pray by Matt Bellamy. I think that the soundtrack could work well for her but I am quite concerned with how age appropriate it may be, considering that she explicitly mentioned the character Daenerys.

She even has the perfect long blonde(ish) hair!!!! I was a tiny bit skeptical at first, but I've listened to the songs and I think they're a good combination of intense and soft. She is already good at intense, and the soft parts can give her an opportunity to grow. I saw a glimpse of potential in her senior choreo sequence this season.
 
oh... so should we say goodbye to all Japanese skaters along-side with USA skaters? Who're doing even more shows right now and will be doing even more shows all summer long ? :scratch2::confused:
It will be so sad not to see neither of them..... Shoma, Rika, Evgenia, Nathan, Liza, Vincent, Kaori, Satoko and Mai, Jason, Mirai, Bradie, Wakaba and everybody else. oh gosh, I will really miss all of them. :(:sad21:

When you have in your yard so many skaters that are doing now quads or and 3Axel, and you choose to make so many shows, I think it clearly tells where you are heading, and what you chose, maybe no explicitly yet.
 
She had one (1) shaky landing at worlds, but I looked at it in slo mo and I actually think it was just rotated (it was borderline either way). I agree that Nebelhorn/Japan open freeskates were ever so slightly better, but not by too much, and that worlds sp was the best she's done all season, especially that combo :love:. Either way, she gave spectacular performances that were certainly better than anything since and including the GP with less training (apparently). What I don't get is why people continue to doubt why she would be eager to continue, when she's said nothing other than wanting to continue skating for herself. But I guess she will have to keep proving people wrong by doing what shes doing :pray:.
She will do shows for herself probably.
This rhetoric is for the public: I am competing just for myself, I am not interested in results. I dont believe it at all.
How will she feel if hypothetical she does not make the team? Or loses at every competition or not even be on the podium? She is an Olympic champion after all. It is difficult to get worst results after you won than vice versa.
 
When you have in your yard so many skaters that are doing now quads or and 3Axel, and you choose to make so many shows, I think it clearly tells where you are heading, and what you chose, maybe now explicitly yet.
sooo. oohh. We all should say goodbye to Evgenia. Oh, poor thing. :(
and Liza. :(
oh lets not forget to say bye to Rika. Poor, poor, poor thing... She's doing twice more shows than Alina. sooo "it clearly tells where she is heading"
Kaori. Satoko. and Mai... too. We all will miss them. :pray:
 
sooo. oohh. We all should say goodbye to Evgenia. Oh, poor thing. :(
and Liza. :(
oh lets not forget to say bye to Rika. Poor, poor, poor thing... She's doing twice more shows than Alina. sooo "it clearly tells where she is heading"
Kaori. Satoko. and Mai... too. We all will miss them. :pray:

It is not funny at all.You cannot compare the situations.. Evgenia and Liza are not doing as many shows as Alina during this summer.
And the Japanese ladies dont face the same internal competition as Alina does. Plus Rika has already a 3 axel. Doesnt have to learn it from scratch.
Plus, all these ladies have different training systems. Eteri's system is well known as based on repetition and hard training. And her skaters dont traditional do so many shows (unless you are Moris and nobody expects you to medal al Worlds)
 
I think Eteri spoiled the viewers.
Her students are always consistent, they never falter and always perform perfect programs.
If they (shocker!) do one mistake, people instantly start screaming, that the technique is failing them, that they are done, it’s all over or whatever.

Wake up, y’all!
Why when any other skater does mistakes, you don’t run to conclusions that their career is over and they are done? Kaori and Rika did not have clean skates all season on international competitions, I guess it’s puberty, the technique is not working, I think it’s over for them, they gotta change coaches to Orser!
Moreover, Rika had so many shaky landings at worlds, I think it’s starting to happen... I think it’s her final season.... her performance at WTT was complete disaster, oh no! Her coach suck out all life from her, she was starving and couldn’t concentrate on her Skating!!! That’s what happened!!!!

Eteri’s girls have the right to do mistakes too sometimes(I know it’s hard to accept and understand, but you should try), they can have bad days, get nervous, her juniors (shocker!) also made mistakes this season, but Alina has to go clean on all competitions, or it’s a sign that it’s all over.

Did you forget the times, where we had world with everyone falling multiple times and still winning?
With Eteri coming to the scene, the clean programs became so normal, the competition became so tough, that now we are blessed with skaters skating 2 amazing programs and still placing like 8th.

Especially when comparing men where almost everyone bombed.
 
I suggest just scrapping all the other russian ladies, because they are done, obviously and focus solely on the new juniors turning seniors. And after a season or two, we will scrap them too for better juniors, so that there will never be confusion of who and who is not done, because we just make them done. And it doesn't take away any spots from the juniors, if the older skaters can't improve and come back.
 
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