2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating
- Thread starter MarinHondas
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I'm not sure about that. Hanna was doing clean triple triple and triple in practice and in the warmups. And she seemed perfectly fine. She was in no physical pain from my perspective. It kinda seems like an excuse.
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this still doesn't mean she could be injured or recovering...recovery is a lot of ups and downs, and we don't always just see the downs. that was a pretty rude statement.
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Hanna is in recovery mode. If you look at Hanna’s past summer competitions, she usually competes way more, but this year, she only did three events. I was a little skeptical and wondered if she was injured, especially during the June to July months. I hope she’s recovered. Hanna has a history of injury over the summer... I hope it’s not because of the quads she’s working on.
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I don't know whether Hanna has been injured or not, but even her landings in practice haven't looked very secure since nationals, maybe junior worlds. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point she started dealing with discomfort that made it hard to stabilize her jumps, or move forward with her training.
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Alysa's FS runthrough at Lake Placid
https://youtu.be/7VULhhxy4Ks
https://youtu.be/7VULhhxy4Ks
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Wow...….That's all I can say. To execute those big jumps with the distraction of other skaters in her view must be so difficult, Bravo.
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I know she's in her first year of juniors, but I hope she's able to improve her speed over this season. I haven't seen her skate in person, but from the view in this video it's hard to see how she earned 8's in SS at Nationals, almost a full point ahead of Courtney Hicks (on average) on that mark.
Maybe because she had nothing to loose at Nationals and to be honest the judges left Bradie and Mariah an open door if they wanted the title. The good news is she has lots of time to learn. Hope she retains the jump content as she ages and her bodyweight grows because USFSA needs a skater with competition nerves.
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I want Alysa to keep the same jump content for next year. No more new quads, combinations, jumps, etc... and simply work on and hone her jump quality, skating skills, edges, spins, presentation, and speed during the entire off season. If she intends to keep her jumps, fend off against under-rotation calls, and have a ratified quad internationally, she will need to work on said aspects of skating.
This might sound harsh, but I really want the international judges to keep her PCS as low as possible (around mid 20s and 50s for the Short and Free respectively) so that her team works on improving her overall quality and not just solely focus on jumps. Right now, Alysa's main issue is speed and it's deterring her from gliding and flowing on the ice. Once Alysa gains more momentum and speed across the ice, she will face the problem of inconsistency as powerful jumps can be difficult to control. But mind you, this is the same girl who can jump and fully rotate a 3A at a near standstill so I'm sure she will find a way to land those jumps. On the flip side, with the insane rotational speed Alysa has, she won't have to worry about under-rotations as she will have even more air-time equating to more time to rotate and execute each jump cleanly.
Best of luck to Alysa Liu, Emilia Murdock, and Jessica Lin at the Junior Grand Prix and to everyone else as well.
This might sound harsh, but I really want the international judges to keep her PCS as low as possible (around mid 20s and 50s for the Short and Free respectively) so that her team works on improving her overall quality and not just solely focus on jumps. Right now, Alysa's main issue is speed and it's deterring her from gliding and flowing on the ice. Once Alysa gains more momentum and speed across the ice, she will face the problem of inconsistency as powerful jumps can be difficult to control. But mind you, this is the same girl who can jump and fully rotate a 3A at a near standstill so I'm sure she will find a way to land those jumps. On the flip side, with the insane rotational speed Alysa has, she won't have to worry about under-rotations as she will have even more air-time equating to more time to rotate and execute each jump cleanly.
Best of luck to Alysa Liu, Emilia Murdock, and Jessica Lin at the Junior Grand Prix and to everyone else as well.
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Wow...….That's all I can say. To execute those big jumps with the distraction of other skaters in her view must be so difficult, Bravo.
Alysa looks unbeatable. Really the Russians and Japanese ladies seemed finished. But part of me is sad. Perhaps the ladies will be better quadsters than many men because of the way they are built. But really great skaters can't compete without the big jumps. I wonder if Kostner will come back - m ind you if she is best italy has she might do it just to compete at one more olympics and on her own terms. Alysa really tries to bring the beauty but I can't get past the push for jumps I was really impressed with Mirai's recent skate but really that has no chance with the jumpers. Alysa I believe will have a better chance of developing. She is talented, musical, hardworking but above that I think we can see her genetics favor big tricks. Not so sure about the Russian girls as they become women. Maybe they need to ding skaters a lot for underrotated quads or falls. Maybe I don't understand the scoring but to beat the Zayak rule and to gain higher base GOE and underrotated quad or edge issue quad allows you to possibly escape the Zayak rule and still score morer than a triple if underrotated I think.
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Under the radar - how are Polina Edmunds and Gracie Gold doing? I got the impression that we now know Ms. Gold was no where ready to compete in Russia. All the instagrams and such can't hide the truth I appreciate the desire to get back on top. Karen Chen is doing amazing this year so who knows. Comebacks are possible. Even Mirai shows us she ain't finished yet. I wonder about Ashley?
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Polina recently posted several clips of her doing a 3F, 2A+3T, 3Lz+2T, and 3Lo. Polina does not have a clean 3-3 yet and scored around 140 in her first summer competition a few weeks ago.
Gracie might be going the Sectionals route and has a 3Lz+3T, 2A+3T, and 2A+Eu+3S. We don’t know about her competitive form yet.
Mirai is competing at Japan Open and has not ruled out Nationals yet. Ashley has been hinting at a possible retirement.
Gracie might be going the Sectionals route and has a 3Lz+3T, 2A+3T, and 2A+Eu+3S. We don’t know about her competitive form yet.
Mirai is competing at Japan Open and has not ruled out Nationals yet. Ashley has been hinting at a possible retirement.
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Re Gracie
Gracie has now said she was not ready to compete in Russia, despite her desire and belief that she was ready. She said that some time ago. We do not “now” know anything that Gracie hasn’t told us many many months ago.I saw Karen in Philadelphia and she did look great, very self assured and confident. We will see how her season goes
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Gracie's coach's instagram is really encouraging, just have to keep in perspective that we don't really know what the ratio of successful/failed jumps is. But her progress is absolutely stunning and really inspiring. I hope she makes it to nationals this year and blows everyone away.
It's a pity her pre-rotation on almost every single jump except her second 3A is pretty abysmal. She's turned about 225-270 degrees before actually taking off on each jump, and I thought the Eteri girls prerotated. However, as she's getting enough on her '4Lz' to land it, she should be able to jump her triples without so much prerotation.
It is a new and different sport now, thanks to Trusova, Kihira and Liu. Juniors and Seniors in Russia are frantically working on 3A's, to keep up with Liu and Kihira, and all over the world, ladies are working on quads. I think overall, it is good for the sport. I think this year Alysa is unbeatable. Next year is another story, as Sophia A. from Russia also has a 3A and a quad. Yes, many lovely skaters will be winnowed out, but most of them could have worked on, attained a 3A. Nagasu did.
