I agree, but they tend to do higher level lifts, twist, and spins and get +'s on the GOE's that hold them up. Their throw 2toe has good lift but the sbs jump, 2x is just not landed with consistency yet by her. However I do not know if this was their deduction. They also have great expression and speed across the ice. Good for Paetsch/Nuss but I am truly surprised with Bianca and Joe. I hope they Rally in the Long.