Meagan Duhamel suspended for two weeks

[cocteautwin]

I read Meghan's post as her wanting her children to know that they could stand up for themselves if they were exploited or cheated on by a man or partner, not as her exploiting her children or using them for PR.

Same. She's been always posting a lot about her children, motherhood, every day life etc. I don't read it as delibarate PR move in this situation. She's extraverted, expressing herself laudly, posting a lot of stuff, that's her personality, like it or not.*

*I'm complete opposite and I'd never posted a pic or anything about my kid on my social media but I guess it's my personal approach, everybody has its own take on that, it's pretty common for people to share a lot of personal stuff.

 

[Skating91]

I don't know why anyone is surprised or making excuses. I remember 5 years ago she publicly called out a child skater as 'sickly looking'. It must have been devastating for a child to be publicly humiliated like that being called 'sickly looking', by a senior, successful skater/coach no less. The ISU should have dealt with it appropriately at the time.

 

[Karoltyna]

Same. She's been always posting a lot about her children, motherhood, every day life etc. I don't read it as delibarate PR move in this situation. She's extraverted, expressing herself laudly, posting a lot of stuff, that's her personality, like it or not.*

*I'm complete opposite and I'd never posted a pic or anything about my kid on my social media but I guess it's my personal approach, everybody has its own take on that, it's pretty common for people to share a lot of personal stuff.

Same here, I don't read it as PR move.

Again same here, I posted my son once, on my very private FB, because he found his skating video I took funny and asked me to post it.

And I find it awkward and uncomfortable how people focus on her in this situation. She is victim of other people's dishonesty and she gets the backlash because she didn't behave with perfect composure. While I don't think her behaviour was ok, I can understand that when ones life is falling apart, they may not remain classy and can act out. She deserves some grace.

 

[TallyT]

Thing is, there is not a lot to actually say about his behaviour and I don't see anyone trying to defend, mitigate or condone him (and some did with previous scandals. It's one small good thing here.). He cheated, that's disgusting and inexcusable and since it's inexcusable there isn't much to talk about. One can only go 'what a louse' a couple of times as everyone did in the first page before it is done to death. But some folk online are pretty much defending, even applauding what was basically a screaming explosion in front of students and other people's children as well as using her own (and I truly believe it was not thought out this way, but still) as photo props in a marital mess. I don't like it. I've seen it done, and how it hurt. But we can agree to disagree.

(We could certainly discuss at length why the skating community itself seems to be fiiiiiine with unpleasant or disgusting behaviour until the public fallout makes it impossible. But that topic gets thrashed out again and again and again and nothing changes.)

 

[Mathman]

^ I agree with this post. To me, the whole incident has very little to do with figure skating. Nothing to see here, folks.

 

[yfan1]

I think we should wait for details, because if it's as TallyT says, the shouting happened in front of other skaters/children, then the suspension is deserved, and there's nothing more to say. As much as I sympathise with Meagan in it, and can understand why she might have had such an outburst.

 

[noskates]

I tend to think it's not our business what happens in their personal lives. I'm not waiting for details because I really don't give a darn. I think the skating community reflects real life and stuff happens. Not all marriages work out, not all men are faithful, not all women are good wives. It's all just real life. I do, however, think there is a fine line between standing up for yourself and doing it in an irrational way. I'm guessing that Meghan chose the wrong time and place to do it....hence the suspension. I hope she can heal and that her children aren't affected.

 

[Mista Ekko]

If what came up when I did a search there now is true, good on Meagan!

After being a big fan when she was competing, I lost my respect for her a few years ago. But it has now come back big time.

I have no time for cheaters. (Come to think of it, in either meaning of the word!)

Shame on Skate Canada for suspending her. They are totally sending out the wrong message. (Reminds me of that time when Will Smith was villified by the media for defending his wife's honour at the Oscars. He should have been praised!)

CaroLiza_fan

You had me till Will Smith

The man physically assaulted someone on live television and was nothing but self righteous about it since,
physical violence is only ever the answer if it's in self defense, he deserved all the negativity that came his way.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

You had me till Will Smith

The man physically assaulted someone on live television and was nothing but self righteous about it since,
physical violence is only ever the answer if it's in self defense, he earned all the negativity that came his way.

I don't like violence, but I do not like people being nasty either.

It used to be that comedians were funny. But it has been a long time since that was the case. Nowadays, most "comedians" are just plain being nasty. And it is not right. It was about time that somebody stood up to them.

Whilst the method used was not ideal, I applaud him for doing something when a so-called comedian was saying nasty things about his family.

If only Bruno had valued his family as much as Will does, then none of what is being discussed in this thread would have happened.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[noskates]

I think if every time an individual said something about someone's family and they resorted to violence of any kind in retribution - it's wrong! And I also think it's a level of immaturity. While I don't condone anyone badmouthing anyone's family, there is such a thing in the US as the 1st amendment that covers freedom of speech. Comedians particularly stretch that as far as it can go. But - there are other ways to make your point than slapping someone on nationwide (and maybe international) television. Or railing at someone in public! Sadly, freedom of speech isn't always moral or fair. I think Meghan probably could have found a better way to vent her anger just as I think Will Smith could have found a better way. Two wrongs still do not add up to one right!

 

[Chantilly]

Has it been confirmed that Meghan yelled at the supposed or actual mistress of her husband?
Or is everyone just assuming?

 

[el henry]

Has it been confirmed that Meghan yelled at the supposed or actual mistress of her husband?
Or is everyone just assuming?

Meagan confirmed that she yelled at someone.

Bruno no longer coaches at Skate Oakville.

I would not say that rumors are "assuming", but that is indeed what they are, rumors. That is why all the comments are couched in "ifs". Knowing that Meagan is capable of expressing her opinions, (one of the things I like about her) and that she has been close mouthed about why she yelled at the other coach, I might be inclined to give the rumors credence. Everyone else's mileage may vary.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

I think if every time an individual said something about someone's family and they resorted to violence of any kind in retribution - it's wrong! And I also think it's a level of immaturity. While I don't condone anyone badmouthing anyone's family, there is such a thing in the US as the 1st amendment that covers freedom of speech. Comedians particularly stretch that as far as it can go. But - there are other ways to make your point than slapping someone on nationwide (and maybe international) television. Or railing at someone in public! Sadly, freedom of speech isn't always moral or fair. I think Meghan probably could have found a better way to vent her anger just as I think Will Smith could have found a better way. Two wrongs still do not add up to one right!

There may be a thing called freedom of speech, but there is also a thing called libel. And suing for that would have been a better route to sort out these comedians spouting bile. But in the heat of the moment, it can be hard to think things out fully like this.

It wouldn't have got to that stage if these so-called comedians had something called common decency and manners.

Why would anybody even think it was OK to say something like Chris Rock did?!

Anyway, we are getting way off topic. I only mentioned it as a passing analogy. I didn't think it would be picked up on.

Let's get back to Meagan.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[CoyoteChris]

Well, imagine if safe sport organizations would have existed when Usova bashed Grishuk's head against the bar-top in Lake Placid...

Yay Maya Usova! If you read up on Zhulin on Wiki he is an "interesting" person. So is Morozov. Just ask Shae-Lynn Bourne
So is Pasquale Camerlengo. And now perhaps Bruno.

I dont blame Meagan for having a terrible emotional moment. I dont blame the suspension. Except in the case of Maya, what do we really know what happened in all the other cases?

But I look at things entirely differently than most here.

I love women. I testified at my brother's divorce against him because he abused his beautiful wife. I am estranged from him and if he was a figure skating coach, even if he was the best coach in the world, knowing what he did to a string of beautiful women but especially his wife, there is no way I would hire him or let my kid take from him.
As far as I am concerned, if you dont get along with your spouse anymore or are not attracted to them, then you divorce them, provide for your kids and wife, and then play the field. You dont cheat on them. IMHO that is an act of a moral degenerate. I do not know what happened here but I believe cheating on your wife and kids for physical and/or emotional pleasure is the act of a degenerate. I take marriage vows very seriously. Obviously, many don't.
Larry Nassar is a degenerate too, as is any adult figure skater that sends porn pics to 13 year old girls.
IF a lady like A Meagan is cheated on by a person like a Bruno and she wins , if that word can be used, in divorce court, then SAFE SPORT should ban any kids under 18 from taking from the Bruno. I dont condem anyone above 18 who wants to take from a Bruno...but I certainly wouldnt. There isnt enough money or fame or shiny medals in the world to tempt me to reward a woman abuser. Am I too hard?
Consider this. In October 2017, following sexual abuse allegations dating back to the late 1970s, Harvey Weinstein was dismissed from his company and expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
Ask G. Paltrow about him. In 1997, Paltrow said that during the filming of Emma (1996), producer Harvey Weinstein made unwanted sexual advances toward her. She confided in her then-fiancé Brad Pitt, who confronted the producer at an industry event. Weinstein later warned Paltrow not to tell anyone else.In 2017, she was a major source for an article written by The New York Times investigative journalists Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey about Weinstein's sexual abuse cases.

He got exactly what he deserved. So did my brother. I dont like women abusers. and If the allegations against Bruno are true, I dont like him.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

The man physically assaulted someone on live television and was nothing but self righteous about it since,

Not true. Will Smith contritely apologized more than once. In any case, the other party was egregiously wrong, as was the Academy for even inviting Rock to present an award late in the evening ten minutes prior to the Best Actor Oscar being announced. Especially when it was public knowledge that Rock, as Oscar host for the 2016 boycotted awards ceremony, had insulted Will's wife, Jada Pinkett with a nasty joke (that stupidly referenced singer Rihanna ), while mocking Will for not receiving an Oscar nomination for his worthy performance playing a real life groundbreaking doctor in Concussion.

FYI-- Going back years, prior to the infamous 2022 Oscar awards, Will Smith had privately asked Rock on more than one occasion to stop disrespecting and ragging on him and his wife. Of course, Will wrongly handled the situation Rock created on that Oscar night. With the pressure and anxiety of the Oscar ceremony building up all evening, and the prior complete disrespect and public dissing Will and Jada had endured from Rock, I find it understandable, if shocking and unsettling that Will suddenly snapped.

 

[Mista Ekko]

This is a FS MB we’re all friends here in our love of FS,
I don’t know why WS was brought up but when someone is condoning
violence I get the urge to reply, so I’ll just say this once more and move on:

Physical violence is never the answer when unprovoked,
every child learns that in any martial arts class,
we have words, we all make choices, sometimes we make mistakes
and if we do It’s important (especially if the world is watching)
to own up, apologize and face the consequences, not make rubbish excuses.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

This is a FS MB we’re all friends here in our love of FS,
I don’t know why WS was brought up but when someone is condoning
violence I get the urge to reply, so I’ll just say this once more and move on:

Physical violence is never the answer when unprovoked,
every child learns that in any martial arts class,
we have words, we all make choices, sometimes we make mistakes
and if we do It’s important (especially if the world is watching)
to own up, apologize and face the consequences, not make rubbish excuses.

No one has said that physical violence is the answer. I corrected your inaccurate belief that Will Smith never apologized and that he has acted self-righteously ever since. That's not true.

Whether you are aware or not, WS has most certainly owned up to his unsettling behavior, accepted responsibility for his actions, and faced harsh consequences. He apologized privately and publicly, no matter who is aware or not that he's done so. WS is not going to stop existing and breathing, being himself, and finding a way to make a living simply because of his wrong reaction to Rock's cruel, provoking behavior over many years, not just on that infamous evening.

 

[Adeline14]

If any woman cheated with my husband and the father of our children, I'm yell at her too and feel fully justified. As would Millions of other wives / husbands. A suspension for this ridiculous even if it is just 2 weeks.

 

[el henry]

One point that if if if everything is true makes this more understandable, from my POV, for Meagan (and I don't quibble with a short suspension, it is not that serious in the order of things).

Meagan and Bruno work together. The other person *showed up in Meagan's workplace*. I am of a certain age, marriage last or they don't, life happens. But the other person show up at the spouse's workplace? In that instance, losing it is understandable. As I said in the first screen, hands would be thrown if they showed up at my workplace.

 

[noskates]

El, I RARELY disagree with you but I have to say that, all things considered, their workplace has children and young humans. NOT the place for a throwdown. Take it in a back room or in a more private place. Now if none of the young skaters weren't around - go for it!