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2025 Skate to Milano (Olympic Qualifier) | Sep 19-21

They had one at WTT in 23 but they have since split
Hyejin had a new partner, Rodion Marinskiy. I don't think they're still skating together, though (at least he's not in her videos). However, neither of her partnerships would have helped here, as both of her partners weren't Korean (her first partner was British-Canadian and her second Russian) and had little chance of getting a Korean passport in time for these Olympics (maybe not even the next ones).
 
Hyejin had a new partner, Rodion Marinskiy. I don't think they're still skating together, though (at least he's not in her videos). However, neither of her partnerships would have helped here, as both of her partners weren't Korean (her first partner was British-Canadian and her second Russian) and had little chance of getting a Korean passport in time for these Olympics (maybe not even the next ones).
Okay, okay... I vaguely recall this partnership being a thing.
 
I am trying to think of a South Korean pair, and I am drawing a blank. Were there any?
They would need to send Hyejin and her most recent partner (if he was willing - there have been suggestions they might have split) to try and get the spot. It is unlikely that they would place in the top 3 at Beijing, which is what they would need to do to qualify a spot. If they did get the spot, they would then need to move a male singles skater with Korean citizenship across to pairs to work with her and hope that the pair could somehow get the 4CC tech min (which is also the minimum for the Olympics) before the entry deadline for the Olympics. That would be a tall order for a male who was new to pairs. It is likely that their ranking is high enough for them to have already qualified for the team event. They therefore do not need to sent a pair to Beijing to have one in the team event. However, unless they have an eligible skater working with Hyejin already, they are unlikely to get a pair ready in time for the team event.
 
seems like petrokina is also injured... she had very rough skates at test skates. She was able to do only 2 triples in two programs and the pirouettes were also mostly V.
 
I expect some shuffling around in pairs and ice dance as well...
- Italy should send the winner of their decision competition, or they wouldn't have needed that event at all
- Austria should, based on scores, send Izzo/Maierhofer. They were more than ten points over Schaller/Mayr at John Nicks. But the fed seems to see citizenship as a criterium too and Gabbie doesn't have it I think...
- The USFS should send Chan/Howe or McBeath/Parkman, NOT Shin/Nagy. They can't ignore the results. And if they do I must assume that they don't actually want another spot for pairs 🤷‍♀️
 
I expect some shuffling around in pairs and ice dance as well...
- Italy should send the winner of their decision competition, or they wouldn't have needed that event at all
- Austria should, based on scores, send Izzo/Maierhofer. They were more than ten points over Schaller/Mayr at John Nicks. But the fed seems to see citizenship as a criterium too and Gabbie doesn't have it I think...
- The USFS should send Chan/Howe or McBeath/Parkman, NOT Shin/Nagy. They can't ignore the results. And if they do I must assume that they don't actually want another spot for pairs 🤷‍♀️
I wondered whether they were sending Shin/Nagy to try to earn their own spot. Chan/Howe are already going, because Efimova doesn't have citizenship. Danill Parkman also does not have citizenship. There wasn't much difference between Liu/Bedard and Shin/Nagy and I'm not sure it is the place to Liu/Bedard to go for their second international competition together (and first outside of the US), particularly as Chelsea is returning after a lengthy mental health break. I would send Chan/Howe, and choose the third pair for the Olympics later if the spot is gained, but we will see what USFS decide.
 
As of today the pairs assignments have not been changed, but Italy is really going to send Paolino/Tuba.
Edit:
More updates for Estonia, Nataly Langerbaur is replaced by Kristina Lisovskaja.
And a sad update for Sweden, the Crafoords have withdrawn.
 
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I wondered whether they were sending Shin/Nagy to try to earn their own spot. Chan/Howe are already going, because Efimova doesn't have citizenship. Danill Parkman also does not have citizenship.
You may be right, but I wouldn't state as fact that Chan/Howe are already going. Efimova doesn't have citizenship at this moment in time. But I remember Tanith Belbin getting her citizenship on Dec. 30 or 31 in 2004 ahead of the 2005 Olympics, by an Act of Congress. Our Michigan legislators played a big part.

So I think it would be really great if Efimova does get citizenship in time. I think they'd have to continue to place well between now and then.

Then again, I also love Spencer and Emily!
 
The ISU released some promo material of the women's competitors on Weibo:

Part 1: Hendrickx, Zhang, Vrastakova, Yakovleva, Chan, Selmekova, Safonova, Prasad, Alcantara, Lisovskaja, Bautista, Risa Gomez, Sueleymanova, Wories, Lahti, Hryhorenko, Dayan, Lovrencic

Part 2: Petrosiian, Gracheva, Gubanova, Montesinos Cantu, Dubinina, Lee, Isaacs, Taljegard, Lovrencic
 
yeah.. i am not sure only one would be good. :) two is fine ;) three is overkill :)
LOL! 🙂 Three is not overkill for countries with extraordinary depth. The problem is simply that figure skating's antiquated competitive structure needs to be reconsidered to meet the complicated demands of a completely different era.

I'm not sure that the strict country representation requirements fully work for figure skating. There needs to be a more multi-faceted approach that allows for broader, inclusive competitive opportunities during the season. And then, like in tennis with Federation Cup, Davis Cup, and The Olympics, allow for country-affiliated competitions. Figure skating could have Worlds, Olympics, and other specific events be tied to country representation. But allow for a middle-range competition series for seniors where skaters from all countries can benefit from multiple competitions not specifically based on country affiliation. Keep the GP series and Challenger events as higher skill level senior events, but based solely on talent and ability, not country affiliation. Allow skaters from different countries to form partnerships without one country affiliation specified until and unless they are good enough to compete at Worlds & Olympics and must choose a country they will rep.

I know many will say that only certain countries would end up dominating in specific disciplines. That's how it often is in tennis, but it's based on who is the best, not on quotas. Why can't figure skating try to grow wide global talent in multiple middle-range competitive events throughout the year that are not country affiliated? As it stands now, very talented skaters in feds with deep disciplines must stay home while less talented skaters go to the Olympics because they are the best in their country's less deep disciplines.

If the sport does not want to do away with strict country affiliation, they absolutely need to do something to provide more extensive competitive opportunities. Skaters cannot improve unless they have plentiful chances to compete. A fairer judging system based on true talent assessment (especially in the aesthetic pcs categories) also needs to be figured out.

In addition, put back together professional competitions, based on the talents of individual experienced singles skaters and partnerships (re pairs & ice dance) who want to continue their careers, without being tied to country affiliation. Pro skating was always about the skaters who had been top stars, and not so much about the countries they repped.

Solve the art vs sport dilemma in part by having solely artistic-based competitions at senior and pro levels, and perhaps separate jumping contests and best tech element contests. I know excuses will be made about lack of money and resources. Well, try to find deep-pocket investors and generate more revenue by making the sport more interesting and up-to-date.
 
I expect some shuffling around in pairs and ice dance as well...
- Italy should send the winner of their decision competition, or they wouldn't have needed that event at all
- Austria should, based on scores, send Izzo/Maierhofer. They were more than ten points over Schaller/Mayr at John Nicks. But the fed seems to see citizenship as a criterium too and Gabbie doesn't have it I think...
- The USFS should send Chan/Howe or McBeath/Parkman, NOT Shin/Nagy. They can't ignore the results. And if they do I must assume that they don't actually want another spot for pairs 🤷‍♀️
You make sense, of course, but I don't think feds or the ISU base their decisionmaking on common sense. 😏

McBeath/Parkman are the more logical choice, based on their 2025 John Nicks and US Nats results. Chan/Howe, while mature, experienced, and aesthetically skilled, they struggle with jump elements.

Interestingly, if Alisa/ Misha most likely can't make the Olympics, Chan/ Howe would be next in line, with both being U.S. citizens. Thus, if McBeath/ Parkman competed and won a spot, it would likely be contested for at U.S. Nats by Shin/ Nagy vs Val & Max. Even if Shin/ Nagy go to Beijing and win a third spot, they still need to prove throughout the remaining season and at Nats that they deserve to be given that third spot (albeit should they win the spot, it's probably going to be theirs).
 
You make sense, of course, but I don't think feds or the ISU base their decisionmaking on common sense. 😏

McBeath/Parkman are the more logical choice, based on their 2025 John Nicks and US Nats results. Chan/Howe, while mature, experienced, and aesthetically skilled, they struggle with jump elements.

Interestingly, if Alisa/ Misha most likely can't make the Olympics, Chan/ Howe would be next in line, with both being U.S. citizens. Thus, if McBeath/ Parkman competed and won a spot, it would likely be contested for at U.S. Nats by Shin/ Nagy vs Val & Max. Even if Shin/ Nagy go to Beijing and win a third spot, they still need to prove throughout the remaining season and at Nats that they deserve to be given that third spot (albeit should they win the spot, it's probably going to be theirs).
Given how well they seem to have started, I think Liu/Bedard could also be in the mix for the third spot if the US was able to secure it.
 
It will be interesting to see the elements that Adelia brings to this comp. At the Team Tut Expo a few weeks ago, she executed two jumping passes: 3f/2t and 3f/3t. Will we see any 3a and/or 4t next week? She doesn't need them for top five; but does need them to set the stage for high PCS at Olys. September suspense!
 
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It will be interesting to see the elements that Adelia brings to this comp. At the Team Tut Expo a few weeks ago, she executed two jumping passes: 3f/2t and 3f/3t. Will we see any 3a and/or 4t next week? She doesn't need them for top five; but does need them to set the stage for high PCS at Olys. September suspense!
I wouldn't look at expos to predict much. I dont think Adeliia has ever jumped ultra-c in expos regardless of her form. I would be very surprised if we don't see high content from her. I think she should use her only international start before the Olympics to get the mental practice in of jumping that sort of content with this pressure. Trying ultra-c under that pressure for the first time at the Olympics would be rough.
 
Predictions based on current entries:

Men: 5 spots available
Petr Gumennik (AIN)
Francois Pitot (FRA)
Donovan Carrillo (MEX)
Genrikh Gartung (GER)

5th spot battled between Korea; Ukraine; Czech Republic; Israel


Women: 5 spots available
Loena Hendrickx (BEL)
Adelia Petrosian (AIN)
Anastasia Gubanova (GEO)
Viktoriia Safonova (AIN)

I'm not that familiar with some of these ladies, but perhaps a 5th spot battle between China; Sweden; Philippines; Norway; New Zealand 🤔 Possibly Cyprus; Hong Kong; Estonia... Plus, if both female athletes repping AIN do well, can both win a spot?


Ice Dance: 4 spots available
Reed/ Ambrulevicius (LTU)
Wang/ Liu (CHN)

3rd and 4th spots a fierce battle I would guess between AUS; IRL; SWE; ESP; HUN; GEO; CYP; UKR; POL 🤔


Pairs: 3 spots available
Akopova/Rakhmanin (ARM)
Zhang/ Huang (CHN)

3rd spot between USA; PRepKorea; JPN; FRA
Too bad for Ukraine; Philippines; and Czech Republic. The ISU should have allowed for more pairs spots.

Actually, Ryom and her new partner, Han of PRK, might be a lock over the Russian-Armenian pair, with the latter (Akopo/Rakh) joining the battle for the third pairs slot between USA, JPN, and FRA.


If the U.S. sent McBeath/ Parkman, I would say the U.S. is a lock, and the second and third spots are between Armenia, PRK, China, Japan, and France.

ETA:
Adjusted 'Czech' country reference; thanks for the correction @Ivana.
 
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Predictions based on current entries:

Men: 5 spots available
Petr Gumennik (AIN)
Francois Pitot (FRA)
Donovan Carrillo (MEX)
Genrikh Gartung (GER)

5th spot battled between Korea; Ukraine; Czechoslovakia; Israel
Men's is always a toss-up. In terms of technical content, Petr is definitely far ahead, then Genrikh. Most of these men have 1 (semi-)consistent quad and the 3A, so a lot will come down to how they skate on the day and on the tech panel (URs...) and a little on PCS (generosity). The AIN skater from BLR, for example, also has a 4T and 3A, but is not the most consistent skater.
Women: 5 spots available
Loena Hendrickx (BEL)
Adelia Petrosian (AIN)
Anastasia Gubanova (GEO)
Viktoriia Safonova (AIN)

I'm not that familiar with some of these ladies, but perhaps a 5th spot battle between China; Sweden; Philippines; Norway; New Zealand 🤔 Possibly Cyprus; Hong Kong; Estonia... Plus, if both female athletes repping AIN do well, can both win a spot?
Yes, I'd agree, the top 4 are fairly clear on paper (of course, anything can still happen). Both AIN skaters can get a spot here. The competition for the last spot will be fierce. If I had to choose, I'd currently give the advantage to the Chinese and Cypriot skaters, but they are not that far ahead of the other skaters.
Ice Dance: 4 spots available
Reed/ Ambrulevicius (LTU)
Wang/ Liu (CHN)

3rd and 4th spots a fierce battle I would guess between AUS; IRL; SWE; ESP; HUN; GEO; CYP; UKR; POL 🤔
I would not assume Wang/Liu are a lock. Their last international season was... not great, and Chinese domestic Ice Dance scoring is something else (particularly for a team like this). With a possible 5th spot opening up later in the qualification process (if Yuka really can't get citizenship), there will be one team sitting on coals after this competition.
Pairs: 3 spots available
Akopova/Rakhmanin (ARM)
Zhang/ Huang (CHN)

3rd spot between USA; PRepKorea; JPN; FRA
Too bad for Ukraine; Philippines; and Czechoslovakia. The ISU should have allowed for more pairs spots.

Actually, Ryom and her new partner, Han of PRK, might be a lock over the Russian-Armenian pair, with the latter (Akopo/Rakh) joining the battle for the third pairs slot between USA, JPN, and FRA.

If the U.S. sent McBeath/ Parkman, I would say the U.S. is a lock, and the second and third spots are between Armenia, PRK, China, Japan, and France.
After the first competitions this season, I'd say CHN and JPN look the best, with the last spot between USA (probably more likely if they send someone else and not Shin/Nagy), ARM, FRA and UKR. If AUT were to send Izzo/Maierhofer, they'd have an outside shot, too.
 
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