That is your opinion, not everyone's. If you want to argue 'being gifted skaters', I can give you many examples. And that's my opinion, of course just like yours.Hopefully not. Don't want to see him win the Olympic Gold. Being gifted 2 additional World titles he never deserved is already bad enough.
Well said. Who knows? The ice is slippery. There are a handful of favourites, not just Chan although I think if he skates well, he will definitely podium.Skatefiguring said:Until the results are known, there is no answer to this question. Judgements will be passed accordingly then.
I don't agree. Olympic favoritism means that reporters will be down your neck at all times at the Games, which can be very disruptive of your preparation process . Brian Orser did not deal well with this pressure, and even Kurt Browning faltered under it. So did Debi Thomas, and Midori Ito found the expectations quite crushing. Sometimes it is better to be a bit under the radar, like Liz Manley.
Patrick Chan has the advantage that this is not his first Olympics, though.
I think that at this point, not having a coach is a much bigger issue than pressure.
I don't agree. Olympic favoritism means that reporters will be down your neck at all times at the Games, which can be very disruptive of your preparation process . Brian Orser did not deal well with this pressure, and even Kurt Browning faltered under it. So did Debi Thomas, and Midori Ito found the expectations quite crushing. Sometimes it is better to be a bit under the radar, like Liz Manley.
Patrick Chan has the advantage that this is not his first Olympics, though.
The tone of this thread going forward will depend on how Patrick skates in the Grand Prix. If he skates well this season, all this griping won't be as much of an issue. On the other hand, if he has a season like last season, well, we all know how GS exploded after Worlds. I'm excited to see how everything plays out. Besides the skating, a lot depends on the judges and what scores they give out, and this is something that is out of the skaters' control.
That is true. :agree:Yeah, the GP will play a huge role in his set-up to Sochi. That being said, you don't need to have a great GP season as long as you can get it together for Olympics/Worlds (see Denis Ten).
This is how I see it, and I was very disappointed at this decision. OK, so it wasn't really a firing, more like a demoting. With all of Krall's experience, expertise and history with Patrick, I imagine it was a slap in the face to have Kathy Johnson take over.Firing a real skating coach so your girlfriend's mother who's not a real skating coach can take over will be why Patrick doesn't win a Gold medal.
Patrick seems to think he's at a point in his skating career where he doesn't need a coach anymore. That is the height of arrogance and stupidity. He's just happy that now he's the one calling the shots and not being pushed as hard as he was with Krall. Well that is all well and good but even the all time great skaters needed a coach and someone to push them.
Patrick seems to think he's at a point in his skating career where he doesn't need a coach anymore. That is the height of arrogance and stupidity. He's just happy that now he's the one calling the shots and not being pushed as hard as he was with Krall. Well that is all well and good but even the all time great skaters needed a coach and someone to push them.
Who says he has no coach? Isn't Kathy Johnson his coach? There are many skaters who went without a coach including Kwan. So they are all arrogant and stupid? We don't train with them so how do you know what is going behind the scenes? Are they obligated to tell all? Why are you so obsessed with Patrick's coach? I have said this and I will say it again. Move on Jammers. Patrick has, Krall has, Patrick's family have, I have, and many of Patrick's fans have.Patrick seems to think he's at a point in his skating career where he doesn't need a coach anymore. That is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
No, the griping won't stop. I have learnt from skating forums that whinging, howling, feet stomping, biitching, conspiracy theories are all very closely associated with this sport (unfortunately) Who knows who the next target will be when Patrick retires. Will see.skatingfan4ever said:The tone of this thread going forward will depend on how Patrick skates in the Grand Prix. If he skates well this season, all this griping won't be as much of an issue