Yeah maybe like a Point more for putting those together! Or maybe like a halfway point style multiple.
But if anyone knows every programs of Plush, SP's, LP's, exhibitions, it is clear that Plush is better in all aspects of skating.
^ IMHO it is still up to the skaters. I don't think Pushenko will get extra points just for showing up and being Plushenko. He will have to skate for it.
Same with Chan, If he skates his best, he will get high PCS no matter what country is in. But I think the judges will not be generous with PCS if he falls and flubs. I do not expect that the ISU and the judges will let anyone back into the gold medal. They are certainly hoping that at least someone brings his A game so they don't have to just give the OGM away.
Hahaha! A demagogue's cowardness at its lousy end. First, he brought himself the WGR with pride as some worthy trophy. Then, when it turned out that the current WGR is a curruped institution owned by a Canadian company that gives its awards based entirely on nationalistic bias, i.e only to the Canadain Chan but never gave it Plu, Dai or Hanyu when they hit the record, CSG hypocritically dismissed his own argument of WGR . It's unbelievable how somebody can be so silly. The best part is that he needs excuses for Chan's win in 2011 too, the only of his WC titles that wasn't questioned by the community. Poor Patrick. His fans make him look like an idiot.It doesn't have to go through Guinness... it is the highest score ever recorded for a man. And what was your excuse for when he got the record in 2011 Worlds, which wasn't on Canadian ice? And the records for total score and highest FS score aren't on Canadian ice - he got them in Russia ... so what's your excuse for that? He doesn't need Guinness to recognize that they're World records, everyone already does that anyways since they know basic math and what numbers are higher than other numbers.
OK, new question, sort of. . . It is assumed that judges are encouraged to be friendly to the Olympic host country's skaters, which would give Plushenko a political advantagee. We can also assume that the judges are all aware of the criticism they have received this season for Chan's high PCS. So how many points can we expect as an "adjustment" to the PCS scores between Chan (- ?) and Plushenko (+?), regardless of how well they skate?
Yagudin was very popular, but Plushy was also very popular in 2002. Maybe you know the North-American poularity, only. And of course, Yagudin is very popular now, but Plushy is more popular, your explanation is false. Plushy is competing, yes, one year two competitionsTrue! Very exciting times! Yagudin was indeed a very popular skater and I think he still is, but now Plushy grabs the attention because he's still competing.
You cannot really compare a skater whose career has unfortunately been cut short with a skater who has a longlasting career. I've seen almost all Plushenko's programs. Yagudin was definitely better in artistic abilities, in posture, and in emotion. Plushenko is better in jumps compare with Yagudin. One thing I do know is that they both are like ironman. I adore both of them, and so do many other skating fans!
This is going to be a big ask considering the guys are now attempting more difficult programs as a whole... 2 quads and 2 axels is much harder to execute when you've got complex spins, harder choreo/transitions, and footwork to think about. I'm hoping the OGM winner is clean or near clean (whoever he is), but I'm anticipating errors given the pressure of the event and inconsistencies in the field as a whole...
I think someone could pull a Lysacek. Scale back to a program that the skater can actually skate and win by delivering the goods. If everyone falls on their multiple quads and gets flummoxed by their complex spins, transitions and choreography, that will give Olympic figure skating a black eye. I believe that the figure skating establishment is shooting itself in the foot by turning ever inward (where it loves itself) instead of outward (where it is fading from public interest).
It's tricky... obviously the guys can scale back and everyone skates clean and the highest artistic guys win, and figure skating maintains a pristine public image. Someone like Takahashi can do no quad (since it gives him issues) and two triple axels or Chan can do two quads and no triple axel (since it gives him issues). The "general public" audience will just see that they stayed on their feet -- if a skater with 7 triples and 1 double axel goes clean, it will be regarded by the public as a "better program" than a skater with 3 quads and 6 triples, who falls once ("if they fell, they should be ranked lower, right?"). Even though a knowledgable skating audience would acknowledge the 2nd skater had way more difficulty and, even with a fall, they would likely regard that program much higher.
So then the question becomes, should skaters do clean programs to get the approval of the audience or should they attempt difficult programs that challenge themselves and move the sport along, even if it poses greater risks to not skating clean?
Historically, Olympic Gold Medalists have skated difficult programs that challenged themselves and moved the sport along, while skating cleanly and with attention to artistry and with crowd-pleasing performance values. It would be sad to think that the sport has devolved to the point where now only one or the other, but not both, are possible -- a point where the Olympic Gold Medal is decided by whether we decide to deduct one point or a point-and-a-half per fall from the winner's total.
Historically, Olympic Gold Medalists have skated difficult programs that challenged themselves and moved the sport along, while skating cleanly and with attention to artistry and with crowd-pleasing performance values. It would be sad to think that the sport has devolved to the point where now only one or the other, but not both, are possible -- a point where the Olympic Gold Medal is decided by whether we decide to deduct one point or a point-and-a-half per fall from the winner's total.
I guess my problem is that I do not particularly appreciate the idea of doing something in a difficult way just so I can say that I did it in a difficult way. If I hopped on one foot to work tomorrow, that would be difficult. But I would not expect praise for doing so. In skating, there are many ways to make something harder to do. Please don't, OK? Just do your quad; don't do it out of a head stand for an extra 0.25 CoP points.