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- Jul 11, 2003
Some of us have been discussing this topic on another non relevant thread. So I'm placing it here to see what we can come up with.
It just seems to me that the third jump (usually a loop jump, although sometimes a toe loop) is badly executed on the ice takeoff and the landing.
If I am correct in reading posters claims that actual 'air' turns are not important in edge jumps then I would like some comments (factual, if possible) on the following:
Apparently a loop jump is allowed to have a 1/2 turn on-ice preparation before take-off.
That same loop jump is allowed a 1/4 less in-air short of landing.
The total for the in-air rotations of the loop jump would be a 1/4 turn for a single loop jump (I've seen that in Juveniles); and for senior: a 1-1/4 turn for a double loop jump and 2-1/4 turn for a triple. That to me sounds like, 75% of the in-air rotations are not necessary.
Does anyone have factual information on this? I don't mind opinions. I certainly have my own but I do go by the Rules even if grudgingly.
In non combo jumps most top skaters fall well within this range of "cheat?" but that 3rd jump in the combo gets to me.
Joe
It just seems to me that the third jump (usually a loop jump, although sometimes a toe loop) is badly executed on the ice takeoff and the landing.
If I am correct in reading posters claims that actual 'air' turns are not important in edge jumps then I would like some comments (factual, if possible) on the following:
Apparently a loop jump is allowed to have a 1/2 turn on-ice preparation before take-off.
That same loop jump is allowed a 1/4 less in-air short of landing.
The total for the in-air rotations of the loop jump would be a 1/4 turn for a single loop jump (I've seen that in Juveniles); and for senior: a 1-1/4 turn for a double loop jump and 2-1/4 turn for a triple. That to me sounds like, 75% of the in-air rotations are not necessary.
Does anyone have factual information on this? I don't mind opinions. I certainly have my own but I do go by the Rules even if grudgingly.
In non combo jumps most top skaters fall well within this range of "cheat?" but that 3rd jump in the combo gets to me.
Joe