What will the 2011/2012 season bring us in the men?

Violet Bliss · Jul 3, 2011

As far as I can tell from his various interviews, Plushenko's attitude has changed drastically since the Olympics. He realizes the importance of other aspects of skating besides jumps and has a better understanding of CoP scoring. He admitted that it's time he learned something from other skaters and he is aiming for and putting effort into more complete choreographies. He no more expects entitled medals just for his quads.

I say bravo to him. He may actually earn his PCS and make up for any diminished physical power with better spins, steps, and transitions. I look forward to seeing a new Plush. This phenom on the scene can only be good for figure skating.

janetfan · Jul 3, 2011

The way I see it, there is "Plushenko The Legend" and then there is the rest of them.

Of course that could change if the reigning Men's Olympic Champion returns to competition.

seniorita · Jul 3, 2011

Hernando said:
The way I see it, there is "Plushenko The Legend" and then there is the rest of them.

Of course that could change if the reigning Men's Olympic Champion returns to competition.

Then they ll say Plushenko The Legend and Lysacek the Olympic Mens Champion?:think:
I m only kidding, I know they ll say Lysacek the Legend and Plushy the Olympic Champion

janetfan · Jul 3, 2011

seniorita said:
Then they ll say Plushenko The Legend and Lysacek the Olympic Mens Champion?:think:
I m only kidding, I know they ll say Lysacek the Legend and Plushy the Olympic Champion

Don't expect me to be nice twice in one day

Bluebonnet · Jul 3, 2011

Hernando said:
The way I see it, there is "Plushenko The Legend" and then there is the rest of them.

Of course that could change if the reigning Men's Olympic Champion returns to competition.

What could change?

It will still be "Plushenko The Legend" and the rest of the skaters. Some of them have won various competitions.

Neda · Jul 8, 2011

Anton Kovalevski has retired

gmyers · Jul 8, 2011

I liked Kovalevski's last free skate. He had a problem with the 3A and tried many techniques. This is bad for Ukraine where things are getting worse!

seniorita · Jul 9, 2011

first brentsson and now kovaleski..

demarinis5 · Jul 21, 2011

Any news about Dai? Is he back on the ice yet?

sigrid · Jul 21, 2011

demarinis5 said:
Any news about Dai? Is he back on the ice yet?

He's in Detroit right now, I suppose he's getting choreo from Pasquale

demarinis5 · Jul 22, 2011

^Thank you.

treeloving · Aug 13, 2011

Any update about Dai? He seem not to appear into any ice-show this season! Is he doing well?

let`s talk · Aug 13, 2011

treeloving said:
Any update about Dai? He seem not to appear into any ice-show this season! Is he doing well?

Don't you know? He is in France, with some French choreographers, those who used to work with French dancers A/P and D/S. Claiming he is working with them on "the smoothness of edges and gestures" (whatever that means). In my opinion it would make more sense if he went to Mishin's camp to work on his jumps. I realize it will never happen, just kidding. He is doing pretty fine with smoothness of all the rest.

genki · Aug 13, 2011

Dai is working with Muriel Boucher-Zazoui (former coach of French couples ice dancing champions of Europe and the world, Marina Anissina-Gwendal Peizerat and Isabelle Delobel-Olivier Schoenfelder) and Romain Haguenauer.

In my opinion it would make more sense if he went to Mishin's camp to work on his jumps.

I agree. If only he could skate like he did in 2008 with two beautiful quads in Olympic, sigh.

I am praying that he will get quads back this year. He said that his right leg moves with much more ease after having the bolt taken out.

Go dai.

treeloving · Sep 9, 2011

Could Japanese (or Russian) fan help me with this, is it true that Yuzuru might move to Mishin camp???? :no:

http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/skate/1315050937/l50

evangeline · Sep 10, 2011

treeloving said:
Could Japanese (or Russian) fan help me with this, is it true that Yuzuru might move to Mishin camp???? :no:

http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/skate/1315050937/l50

I can't read Japanese or Russian, so I have no idea what it says on that page, but I'm going to just let out a preemptive NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO just in case this is true.

But really, I don't think it's likely that Yuzuru will be coached by Mishin. Mishin has only ever (IIRC) been a full-time coach to Russian skaters, and didn't the Russian Fed recently "suggest" to their coaches to concentrate on coaching solely Russian skaters in preparation for a medal haul at Sochi? Maybe Yuzuru is attending a short-term Mishin training camp, just like Stephane Lambiel used to do.

ImaginaryPogue · Sep 10, 2011

When Lambiel came back for the Olympics, he asked Mishin if they could work with each other. Mishin turned him down in order to keep himself available for Plushenko. I doubt this is true, so I'm not all that worried. Though if it is..... well, what evangeline said.

treeloving · Sep 11, 2011

evangeline said:
I can't read Japanese or Russian, so I have no idea what it says on that page, but I'm going to just let out a preemptive NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO just in case this is true.

But really, I don't think it's likely that Yuzuru will be coached by Mishin. Mishin has only ever (IIRC) been a full-time coach to Russian skaters, and didn't the Russian Fed recently "suggest" to their coaches to concentrate on coaching solely Russian skaters in preparation for a medal haul at Sochi? Maybe Yuzuru is attending a short-term Mishin training camp, just like Stephane Lambiel used to do.

I hope Yuzuru just attend short term training camp then; I read on FSU thread and found that Mishin film Yuzuru program(jump) in ice show, I don't know if it relate to that now he was seen in Russia or not.

BTW, this is Yuzuru clip where he landed 4t-3A I found on Mao forum!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl0oiv_yuzuru-hanyu-yyyy-the-ice-2011-4t-3a_sport

Violet Bliss · Oct 13, 2011

PJ Kwong's preview

gmyers · Oct 13, 2011

"I think in my day of men's skating, it seemed a lot about jumps, a lot about the number of jumps and number of rotations in the jumps and you had to skate clean," said Canada's Brian Orser, the 1987 world champion and two-time Olympic silver medallist. "That was it. You had to skate clean."

LOL - "how great Chan can fall three or four times and still win!! Yay!" That comment just kind of made me laugh! It's just good thing CHan was basically clean at worlds.

It seemed that the competition was being defined less by the ability to do a quad jump and more about having it as an ordinary element, in addition to superior skating skills and an outstanding ability to perform under pressure when it counts.

It's not like anyone did a quad in a winning performance at worlds 2008-2010 or Olympics 2010. Quad ability meant nothing those years. Quad performers were always losers and only rule changes really brought them back.

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