2013 Worlds - Free Dance

aftertherain · Mar 16, 2013

@Mao88: Here's another (clearer) link to D/W's FD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2auou58sUa0

chuckm · Mar 16, 2013

roots said:
Fault me for being bias, but not a fan of Davis and White, never was. She is fake and always seems to be over-actig. I don't buy it. And Charlie huffing and puffing at the end, like he just completed something that had never been done.

Charlie was huffing and puffing because he has ASTHMA!

Please the moment had passed, actually there was no moment. Call it sour grapes, they do nothing for me. Bland program like they always put out.

Sour grapes it is. Now go away and sulk!

Tessa is gorgeous, simply stunning and their program was captivating from beginning to end.

But also very cautious and s---l---o---w. That cost them in the PCS scores.

The mistake in the short dance did them in.

But they lost the FD too, by 1.27 points.

ForeverFish · Mar 16, 2013

Mrs. P said:
I know, but I wanted to say I like her hair. And I do. I think she's very pretty!

ITA. Meryl Davis reminds me of Snow White in the flesh.

jfdw · Mar 16, 2013

I am Canadian and I am happy to say that I think Meryl and Charlie deserved to win to-day. I love V/M and they have given some spectacular performances but to-day was Meryl and Charlie's. I think both teams are a great asset to figure skating. They trade comeptitions each year. One wins and one loses some. This year has been Davis/White. I hope they enjoy the moment going into the Olympics.

I hope the air quality in the arena is Russia is good. It would be a terrible shame if skaters with respiratory problems were to have their performances suffer in such an important competition
jfdw

Mao88 · Mar 16, 2013

FREE DANCE - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)

1. Meryl DAVIS & Charlie WHITE (USA) - 189.56 Free Dance
2. Tessa VIRTUE & Scott MOIR (CAN) - 185.04 Free Dance
3. Ekaterina BOBROVA & Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS) - 169.19 Free Dance
4. Anna CAPPELLINI & Luca LANOTTE (ITA) - 168.04 Free Dance
5. Kaitlyn WEAVER & Andrew POJE (CAN) - 166.20
6. Nathalie PECHALAT & Fabian BOURZAT (FRA) - 165.60
7. Madison CHOCK & Evan BATES (USA) - 163.93
8. Maia SHIBUTANI & Alex SHIBUTANI (USA) - 157.71
9. Elena ILINYKH & Nikita KATSALAPOV (RUS) - 157.52
10. Nelli ZHIGANSHINA & Alexander GAZSI (GER) - 154.27

herios · Mar 16, 2013

pangtongfan said:
Maybe the USFSA were hedging their bets who they consider their #2 behind C&B and S&S so didnt throw full support behind either in that regard. Now after these Worlds it will clearly be C&B and that will help them next season, and possibly to climb even higher than 7th despite the strength of the teams in front of them.

Why do we need always include in our analysis, the federation's will? While is skater vs. skater, what programs they do and how well they skate actually matters?
If we do not include politicks, we are not feeling good right?
The reality is, C/B has IMPROVED and they gelled only this year, while last year you see how they struggled to adjust to each other.
Shibutani's need a fresh input. They are very takented, but need a new eye and direction. They should leave Marina.

chuckm · Mar 16, 2013

Nick Buckland had to get a medical evaluation after their FD. He was having trouble breathing and had developed cardiac arrhytmia. There must be a problem in the arena if so many skaters were having difficulties.

WeakAnkles · Mar 16, 2013

Mrs. P said:
Modern/interesting dances ARE possible.

I know this is Jr. level but this Pink Floyd FD totally rocked out----it did not look like they were trying to cram dance holds. One of my favorites for this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qzpqxHuiOI

I think Virtue/Moir certainly could have figured it out....

ETA: Correct video link
ETA2: I do realize that V/M have skated to Pink Floyd as well.

LOL! I'm terrible with links myself. Yes, I love their Pink Floyd program. But again I don't think we'll see anything like that next year, not with an Olympic medal at stake. Pity, really.

Rikku · Mar 16, 2013

chuckm said:
Nick Buckland had to get a medical evaluation after their FD. He was having trouble breathing and had developed cardiac arrhytmia. There must be a problem in the arena if so many skaters were having difficulties.

German eurosport guy, who is a former ice dancer and competed there once, said it gets really superhumid in the venue the longer a competition goes on. That could make it harder to breathe.

Mao88 · Mar 16, 2013

FREE DANCE - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)

1. Meryl DAVIS & Charlie WHITE (USA) - 189.56 Free Dance
2. Tessa VIRTUE & Scott MOIR (CAN) - 185.04 Free Dance
3. Ekaterina BOBROVA & Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS) - 169.19 Free Dance
4. Anna CAPPELLINI & Luca LANOTTE (ITA) - 168.04 Free Dance
5. Kaitlyn WEAVER & Andrew POJE (CAN) - 166.20 Free Dance
6. Nathalie PECHALAT & Fabian BOURZAT (FRA) - 165.60 Free Dance
7. Madison CHOCK & Evan BATES (USA) - 163.93
8. Maia SHIBUTANI & Alex SHIBUTANI (USA) - 157.71
9. Elena ILINYKH & Nikita KATSALAPOV (RUS) - 157.52
10. Nelli ZHIGANSHINA & Alexander GAZSI (GER) - 154.27

millie · Mar 16, 2013

ForeverFish said:
ITA. Meryl Davis reminds me of Snow White in the flesh.

Sorry, her nose is like a woodpecker....She is a very unattractive woman but she is an excellent dancer and skater and they deserved to win.

Mrs. P · Mar 16, 2013

herios said:
Why do we need always include in our analysis, the federation's will? While is skater vs. skater, what programs they do and how well they skate actually matters?
If we do not include politicks, we are not feeling good right?
The reality is, C/B has IMPROVED and they gelled only this year, while last year you see how they struggled to adjust to each other.
Shibutani's need a fresh input. They are very takented, but need a new eye and direction. They should leave Marina.

I agree, C/B has improved greatly and that is why they are where they are. What made the difference is the levels + execution. C/B basically had 2 more points in BV then beat them in +GOE by three points.

But on the Shibs end, as I pointed out, it's hard to do anything when there are things out of control -- growth spurt, injury. I think they did the best they could considering their personal physical struggles and I think they will learn from it.

A coaching change would probably be beneficial, or they need to learn to speak up like D/W and have more say in what they can do.

Oreo · Mar 16, 2013

millie said:
Sorry, her nose is like a woodpecker....She is a very unattractive woman but she is an excellent dancer and skater and they deserved to win.

Geez, who raised YOU?

pangtongfan · Mar 16, 2013

I never suggested or hinted C&B rose because of federation support. They earned their way to where they got this year. I am just saying as a reward for that they can probably expect more federation support next year. As to why people usually mention that at some point in their analysis, well if anyone thinks that isnt still a strong factor in the sport, get your head out of the sand already.

ks777 · Mar 16, 2013

lol to me, Meryl looks like Brandy.

kittyhawk · Mar 16, 2013

Congrats to all the winners! Meryl and Charlie are just phenomenal. Hopefully this will light a fire in Tessa and Scott and spur them to skate better than ever. The Olympic season will be so exciting!

A shame about the Brits, I was hoping that they would secure 2 spots.

ImaginaryPogue said:
Well, they basically have been told to. My bet is we're gonna see Swan Lake. Ballet, Tchaikovsky, Russian Olympics, Jennifer Swann..... the whole nine yards.

I agree that they might do balletic next season, but I don't think they'll do any of the Petipa classics, no matter that Tessa has a background in the genre. Can you imagine Scott as Siegfried? Solor? Or Desire/Florimund?

Better fit as Basilio, but I can't quite imagine Tessa as Kitri. And Giselle (neither Petipa nor classical, but one of the big white ballets) is obviously out.

IMO, what would suit them better?

Something along the lines of the Romeo and Juliet ballet (Prokofiev score), 'Manon' (MacMillan choreo), or Ashton's 'Marguerite and Armand'. Tudor's 'The Leaves Are Fading'.
So, not the 'tutu' storybook ones (though I would pay good money to see Scott skate to the pirate ballet 'Le Corsaire', haha). If they want to go 'Russian', 'Anna Karenina' and 'Onegin' have ballet adaptations. If they want a big, clap-along crowd pleaser, Ponchielli's 'Dance of the Hours' is a popular ballet within the opera 'La Gioconda'--if they don't mind bringing up childhood images of dancing alligators and hippopotamuses.

I wish there had been a way to reconcile the artistic version of 'Carmen' to the competitive aspect of ice dance. I really liked the program when they first debuted it, and I could totally see the potential of it.

I hope both V/M and D/W come out for the Olympic season with great programs and great performances. Truly a rivalry for the ages.

ETA: I hope Nick Buckland is ok. :eek:

Mrs. P · Mar 16, 2013

ks777 said:
lol to me, Meryl looks like Brandy.

The R&B singer?!

gmyers · Mar 16, 2013

Jammers said:
I think we can once and for all say that B/S are Russia's number one Ice dance team. I/K are over-rated.

They were always Russia's number one with I/k's biggest detractors being zhulin, tarasova, staviski and the Russian federation and the nationals judges.

ManyCairns · Mar 16, 2013

I only wish I were as "unattractive" as Meryl! Insipidly pretty? Heck, no. Dramatic and captivating? In spades.

Mrs. P · Mar 16, 2013

rallycairn said:
I only wish I were as "unattractive" as Meryl! Insipidly pretty? Heck, no. Dramatic and captivating? In spades.

Right? She does have that dramatic look to her. Esmeralda works well for her.

2013 Worlds - Free Dance

aftertherain

chuckm

ForeverFish

jfdw

Mao88

herios

chuckm

WeakAnkles

Rikku

Just enjoying the skating

Mao88

millie

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!

Oreo

pangtongfan

Match Penalty

ks777

kittyhawk

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!

gmyers

ManyCairns

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!

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