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Is it true that Nicole Gosviani will compete for Italy?
Russian figure skater Nicole Gosviani to represent Italy?
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I don't know about compete, but she's certainly engaged to marry an Italian. https://instagram.com/p/5lAuOfIM_Q
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I didn't hear about that. But, she is engaged to Italian Ice Dancer Leo-Luca Sforza, so it is possible. (Here is his current ISU Bio, and his old ISU Bio from when he was doing Pairs).
See this conversation in the "Stupid Questions Thread" from a couple of weeks back for more info.
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Italian site talking about Gosviani could compete for Italy
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What's the age to marry in Italy? He is only 17, and in some places, you need to turn 18 to get married.
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Most probably yes.
In Italy is 18 but why are you talking about marriage? Did they say they're getting married?
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Yep, just saw them talking about it in her thread on the IceSkating&Ritmica Forum (conversation starts here)
Here is the story that prompted the conversation:
http://www.neveitalia.it/sport/figu...discrezioni-di-fine-primavera-e-inizio-estate
But, the important thing to note is that this page on Neve Italia is entitled "Notizie e indiscrezioni di fine primavera e inizio estate", i.e. "News and RUMOURS of Late Spring and Early Summer".
And the bit about Nikol is talking about "una concreta possibilità", or "a real possibility", of her skating for Italy.
So, make of that what you may.
I'm waiting for something more concrete than just "a possibility" before being sure it's happening.
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The poster above said they were engaged. Unless engagement means something totally different in Italy, or they plan on getting married many years down the road.
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Put it like this. The relationship status on both their Facebook profiles say that they are engaged to each other.
And given all the photos of her on his Instagram page (I'm not posting a link to it, due to the address he has chosen, but AlexRus has posted it in this comment), I have no reason to doubt that it is true.
So, if they do get married, it will probably be sometime down the road.
As part of a comment on the Italian forum, I wrote the following:
CaroLiza_fan said:
http://skating-ritmica.forumfree.it/?t=50349448&st=15#entry577841796
To which I got the following reply from one of the Moderators:
Wolfie said:
http://skating-ritmica.forumfree.it/?t=50349448&st=15#entry577844667
So, although there might be something in it, it is looking like we have a journalist who likes putting two and two together, and doesn't worry if the answer is correct or not.
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I always thought she was a lovely skater but never really a contender other her breakthrough at Euros. Hopefully in Italy with less pressure she'll have a more successful career (if that in fact is what she's doing, competing for Italy).
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She is 18 y. o., 19 soon (born 9 september 1996)...
No, it's Georgian.
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It's not something fixed nowadays. It can have different meanings. In Italy the boyfriend is called fiancé or they say we're engaged (impegnati) but they might have no plans to marry. Not in a near future anyway. I'm "engaged" and live with my partner for 7 years now, for example. It means you take your relationship very seriously, not necessarily that you're making plans to marry. I don't know about these two though, maybe they're, that's why I asked.
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That's nonsense (I'm referring to the comment from skating-ritmica). That journalist is Massimiliano Ambesi, Eurosport Ita commentator, and he is one of the best journalist - if not the best - for winter sports in general and Figure Skating in particular. A) He did not "spread any "rumor" about Berton&Ondrej. The story was true, right? He is in very friendly relationship with Berton's family and they were the source. He deleted the article as a favor towards them because they asked not to publish it before the news was made official. I guess they wanted Ondrej's team to make it official.
Anna&Luca retirement was considered indeed therefore theorizing was correct. So no, we don't have "a journalist who likes to put two and two together, and doesn't worry if the answer is correct or not." He's very well informed. As for the news on Gosviani, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
As for the article, there is nothing wrong to put one article about "News and Rumours" as the title clearly says. The title and the informations in it are not misleading. There is nothing irresponsible about it.
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Thank you for the extra info, Alba. As I am not in Italy and don't speak Italian, I just have to go with what I am told by people that are there / do speak it.
So, it looks like it's the same as with anybody. Some people like him, and some don't!
I will bear that in mind when I read future posts.
I have to disagree. Yes, the title of the page makes it clear that the article contains both. But, it doesn't make it clear which of these categories each story falls into. It would be better if the news and the rumours were separated out, or there was some sort of code (e.g. colour coding; an "N" for news and "I" for rumours in brackets at the start of each story; etc.) to distinguish them.
Thank you for posting in this thread, Alba. Having the opinions of people who are actually in Italy is really giving us an extra insight into what the situation may be (or may not be!)
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Hi everyone, I'm Wolfie from IceSkating&Ritmica forum, I thank CaroLiza_fan for quoting me but I would like to explain the situation by myself:
The news about Nikol Gosviani competing for Italy is said to be a rumor by the author himself, it could be true or not, all we know is that there is nothing official about that. The source remain unknown.
The things posted by Sforza brothers (they compete for Italy together as Ice Dance team) on Facebook and Instagram are quite distracting: first of all "fidanzamento" in italian could be translated with "engagement" but it has a different meaning, we said two people are "fidanzati" when they start a stable relationship, not when they plan to get married. Of course there is the photo of Nikol with a ring in her left hand, but from what I know doesen't necessarily mean they are planning their wedding, I saw many girls wear a ring without having plans for marriage on their minds. I personally don't think they are going to get married soon, but it is my opinion.
And even if they are really going to marry that doesen't mean Gosviani will compete for Italy.
The first time I've read the article I thought Nikol has somehow italian origins like Righini but the Gosviani did not really sound an italian surname even if it ends with an “I”. It's Georgian like someone said, but it doesn't mean anything.
For what concern the thing I've written about B/H and C/L it comes from last year, that site made the scoop and then the link to the original article disappeared, here is a quote from that article before it was deleted, I can't put the link because this is my firts message here but it is on page 13 of Berton/Hotarek's thread on skating-ritmica forum.
It announced a rumor of a possible B/H split up, and this actually happened, but then it speculates on a Hotarek's retirement because the engagement with Anna Cappellini! I'm sorry, I remembered something concerning a speculation about a possible C/L's retirement as well but I can't check because the original article doesen't exhist any more, maybe I'm wrong. So there was somthing true about this news but not everithing.
Personally I do not consider Neveitalia as the best Italian information site about figure skating, and this reporter as commentor is maybe the less worst (talking about Italian broadcasting) but not the best. I used to like him once, but there where some things that changed my mind. Just my opinion.
Conclusion: it may be something true in it but by now it's just a rumor. I will consider a proper news when will be official statements by Gosviani herself or by the federetions, like in B/H's case.
The news about Nikol Gosviani competing for Italy is said to be a rumor by the author himself, it could be true or not, all we know is that there is nothing official about that. The source remain unknown.
The things posted by Sforza brothers (they compete for Italy together as Ice Dance team) on Facebook and Instagram are quite distracting: first of all "fidanzamento" in italian could be translated with "engagement" but it has a different meaning, we said two people are "fidanzati" when they start a stable relationship, not when they plan to get married. Of course there is the photo of Nikol with a ring in her left hand, but from what I know doesen't necessarily mean they are planning their wedding, I saw many girls wear a ring without having plans for marriage on their minds. I personally don't think they are going to get married soon, but it is my opinion.
And even if they are really going to marry that doesen't mean Gosviani will compete for Italy.
The first time I've read the article I thought Nikol has somehow italian origins like Righini but the Gosviani did not really sound an italian surname even if it ends with an “I”. It's Georgian like someone said, but it doesn't mean anything.
For what concern the thing I've written about B/H and C/L it comes from last year, that site made the scoop and then the link to the original article disappeared, here is a quote from that article before it was deleted, I can't put the link because this is my firts message here but it is on page 13 of Berton/Hotarek's thread on skating-ritmica forum.
It announced a rumor of a possible B/H split up, and this actually happened, but then it speculates on a Hotarek's retirement because the engagement with Anna Cappellini! I'm sorry, I remembered something concerning a speculation about a possible C/L's retirement as well but I can't check because the original article doesen't exhist any more, maybe I'm wrong. So there was somthing true about this news but not everithing.
Personally I do not consider Neveitalia as the best Italian information site about figure skating, and this reporter as commentor is maybe the less worst (talking about Italian broadcasting) but not the best. I used to like him once, but there where some things that changed my mind. Just my opinion.
Conclusion: it may be something true in it but by now it's just a rumor. I will consider a proper news when will be official statements by Gosviani herself or by the federetions, like in B/H's case.
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