sigh...
:banging:
It would be a damn easy technology to count the # of rotations.
I can not trust judges at all.
Yuna's video is up already. I guess Korean fans are fast...... lol
I was watching it live online, too, so the screen was quite fuzzy and I couldn't see well, but this is much better.
To me, her 3-3 looks just as good as the one at TEB or SA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqni0POd90
Am I beginning to hate CoP, especially UR calls. Far too many of them seem completely random and/or undeserved (and they can't be effectively challenged) that they effectively randomize too many of the results....
blech, who wants to watch crap like that?????? I know I don't (why I'm planning on giving the ladies in Vancouver a miss).
But we're not counting the number of rotations. What is counted is the degree of rotation, which is less easy to discern.
Puhleease. Sorry my wording was wrong. I'm also an American national, but ethnicity-wise I'm Scottish, Korean and Japanese. I'm making an analogy here, but that's what you essentially did. I've gone through this Korean vs Japanese my whole life & I'm frankly so sick of it.
Am I beginning to hate CoP, especially UR calls. Far too many of them seem completely random and/or undeserved (and they can't be effectively challenged) that they effectively randomize too many of the results....
blech, who wants to watch crap like that?????? I know I don't (why I'm planning on giving the ladies in Vancouver a miss).
Puhleease. Sorry my wording was wrong. I'm also an American national, but ethnicity-wise I'm Scottish, Korean and Japanese. There are so many hostile and stupid Japanese-Americans/Korean-Americans that spew out silly garb. I just hate the fact that you have to bring up a Japanese lady must be behind some kind of reason that Yuna got DG. I don't like the call either. And I'm not talking how people get GOEs or not. I'm saying you're ridiculous in insinuating that a call that you don't agree on has to have some kind of ethnically-driven motive. Yuna clearly didn't deserve a +1 GOE for her 1st combo at SA in LP '09, but just because one judge had strange marks I didn't assume, oh the person must be Korean. I'm making an analogy here, but that's what you essentially did. I've gone through this Korean vs Japanese my whole life & I'm frankly so sick of it.
Puhleease. Sorry my wording was wrong. I'm also an American national, but ethnicity-wise I'm Scottish, Korean and Japanese. There are so many hostile and stupid Japanese-Americans/Korean-Americans that spew out silly garb. I just hate the fact that you have to bring up a Japanese lady must be behind some kind of reason that Yuna got DG. I don't like the call either. And I'm not talking how people get GOEs or not. I'm saying you're ridiculous in insinuating that a call that you don't agree on has to have some kind of ethnically-driven motive. Yuna clearly didn't deserve a +1 GOE for her 1st combo at SA in LP '09, but just because one judge had strange marks I didn't assume, oh the person must be Korean. I'm making an analogy here, but that's what you essentially did. I've gone through this Korean vs Japanese my whole life & I'm frankly so sick of it.
But we're not counting the number of rotations. What is counted is the degree of rotation, which is less easy to discern.
I suspect it may not be random. Actually by analyzing statistics so far we may be able to find some interesting result about technical callers, for example, who had more controversial calls and so on.
I think it's the same.
That might be the next task of excellent statisticians on this board... Mathman just to name one. Hint hint.
Seriously though, I feel like as fans of figure skating we should all band together and try to make it a better sport for all of us to follow. This is why calling out inconsistent judging and things like this, especially under the very system which aimed to stamp out these flaws, is so valuable. It may be awfully idealistic of me to think that we could have any significant impact on the ISU, but who knows? We're part of quite a big forum.
Yuna's video is up already. I guess Korean fans are fast...... lol
I was watching it live online, too, so the screen was quite fuzzy and I couldn't see well, but this is much better.
To me, her 3-3 looks just as good as the one at TEB or SA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqni0POd90
Shoot. If Kim's 3-3 is as fine as it was today, but still DG tomorrow, I will take a break from figure skating for a year or so and skip the Olympic Games altogether. I'm getting rather sick of this. First the 3F-3T, now this? Kim's 3-3 combos are one of the best in the entire history of ladies figure skating. I don't get where all of these "e" "!" and DGs are coming from.
I couldn't resist but to point out that the tech who gave her downgrade was the same one who gave Yuna "e." If no one sees it but that one person (and yes also that another tech referee being there)........ it's just fishy. sigh.
Now, everyone says she has some mental issues. I just HATE seeing this.
Ugh, I understand how you feel if you were Scottish, Korean and Japanese! (My Korean and Japanese friends, they hang out well but whenever history comes up, they are like cats and dogs... lol -- which I perfectly understand why.)
I hate to bring Korea/Japan thing in here, but no one can deny the fact that nationality does play some tricks in figure skating. That's why we have a new system, and we continue to question if it is working.
I couldn't resist but to point out that the tech who gave her downgrade was the same one who gave Yuna "e." If no one sees it but that one person says OMG Yuna sucks! let's give her all these downgrades and edge calls! (and yes also that another tech referee being there)........ it's just fishy. sigh. (I will go with the majority here and if 10 say Yuna's jumps are perfect vs 1 who says she's wrong, then I will say that 1 person is wrong.)
I saw the youtube clip, and saw it many times, and still with my head, I can't accept that downgrade. We all know what happens after that one small incident. Before Yuna received "e," her 3flip success rate was almost 100%. Now, everyone says she has some mental issues. I just HATE seeing this.
Could you explain? I'm not sure if I understand the difference between degree of rotation and number of rotations.
Ugh, I understand how you feel if you were Scottish, Korean and Japanese! (My Korean and Japanese friends, they hang out well but whenever history comes up, they are like cats and dogs... lol -- which I perfectly understand why.)
I hate to bring Korea/Japan thing in here, but no one can deny the fact that nationality does play some tricks in figure skating. That's why we have a new system, and we continue to question if it is working.
I couldn't resist but to point out that the tech who gave her downgrade was the same one who gave Yuna "e." If no one sees it but that one person says OMG Yuna sucks! let's give her all these downgrades and edge calls! (and yes also that another tech referee being there)........ it's just fishy. sigh. (I will go with the majority here and if 10 say Yuna's jumps are perfect vs 1 who says she's wrong, then I will say that 1 person is wrong.)
I saw the youtube clip, and saw it many times, and still with my head, I can't accept that downgrade. We all know what happens after that one small incident. Before Yuna received "e," her 3flip success rate was almost 100%. Now, everyone says she has some mental issues. I just HATE seeing this.