2022-23 Cup of Russia - Stage 1 - Moscow

[Mauvedreamer]

So, to sum up the whole event, I’d say that for me the 4 top pairs, Shul’skaya and Akat’yeva, and Kaganovskaya/Angelopol were outstanding.

I loved the pairs the most. Sofia was wonderful. Really like k and A in dance. Thought they were much more interesting and creative.

 

[lariko]

I loved the pairs the most. Sofia was wonderful. Really like k and A in dance. Thought they were much more interesting and creative.

I am annoyed that K/A free dance wasn’t available as a separate clip to add to my 2023 list. Have to check if they uploaded it yet…

 

[Skatelife]

I am annoyed that K/A free dance wasn’t available as a separate clip to add to my 2023 list. Have to check if they uploaded it yet…

I'm not really into ice dance, my favorites disciplines are pairs and ladies, first time I saw then was in the test skates with the rymth dance since then I love them, and now I'm following the hole thing

 

[lariko]

I'm not really into ice dance, my favorites disciplines are pairs and ladies, first time I saw then was in the test skates with the rymth dance since then I love them, and now I'm following the hole thing

Btw, the free skate video is now available!

 

[AlexBreeze]

Btw, the free skate video is now available!

This fancam is great too. In some ways better than an official broadcast.

 

[alexocfp]

This fancam is great too. In some ways better than an official broadcast.

Want to say something about this: Channel One does an amazing job with the events they cover.

I’ve praised them more than once regarding the live TV events and the buildup to the events, as their promos are second to none. Just amazing hype packages.

But, the camera work sometimes gets hectic. It’s like they decide to go all cinematic during the skates and start jump cuts or going to a wide shot without warning.

No need for all that rigamarole; just focus on the skater and move with them. This doesn’t have to be an award winning cinematography thing. Just keep it simple.

 

[icybear]

Want to say something about this: Channel One does an amazing job with the events they cover.

I’ve praised them more than once regarding the live TV events and the buildup to the events, as their promos are second to none. Just amazing hype packages.

But, the camera work sometimes gets hectic. It’s like they decide to go all cinematic during the skates and start jump cuts or going to a wide shot without warning.

No need for all that rigamarole; just focus on the skater and move with them. This doesn’t have to be an award winning cinematography thing. Just keep it simple.

Funny how ISU is blocking people from watching an International event whereas 1tv is giving a livestream to a national event even though their main youtube channel has been taken down. Seems like the Russian care more about us international fans than ISU

 

[AlexBreeze]

Want to say something about this: Channel One does an amazing job with the events they cover.

I’ve praised them more than once regarding the live TV events and the buildup to the events, as their promos are second to none. Just amazing hype packages.

But, the camera work sometimes gets hectic. It’s like they decide to go all cinematic during the skates and start jump cuts or going to a wide shot without warning.

No need for all that rigamarole; just focus on the skater and move with them. This doesn’t have to be an award winning cinematography thing. Just keep it simple.

And sometimes their cameras have different colours for no reason.

Funny how ISU is blocking people from watching an International event whereas 1tv is giving a livestream to a national event even though their main youtube channel has been taken down. Seems like the Russian care more about us international fans than ISU

They block videos on their channel because of the copyright.

 

[lariko]

Honestly, as long as they don’t cut to the coaches or insert a split window with someone in the backroom during a skate, I am fine with them self-expressing. Maybe one pet peeve is top-down view of a spin.

But, like, nothing beats camera work in Zagreb (I think?) last year, when the camera guy obviously went to grab a bite or pee, and just left the camera centered on the middle. So, like, the pair guy would toss the lady, she’d fly out of the camera’s view, and we are left in suspense on the outcome of the element. Mom and I still have fits of laughter when we remember that, ‘landed, not landed? Who knows… shrodinger’s triple Throw).

 

[alexocfp]

Funny how ISU is blocking people from watching an International event whereas 1tv is giving a livestream to a national event even though their main youtube channel has been taken down. Seems like the Russian care more about us international fans than ISU

Of course. I’m on the Russian ladies’ side over the ISU’s and I’m glad Channel 1 is covering the sport. They know what they are doing.

The camera work is a small, small situation compared to what the rest of the world has to go through to watch skating.

I wanted to put “inferior” in between “watch” and “skating” in my last sentence above, but I didn’t because I don’t want to rile people up. Haha

 

[alexocfp]

Honestly, as long as they don’t cut to the coaches or insert a split window with someone in the backroom during a skate, I am fine with them self-expressing. Maybe one pet peeve is top-down view of a spin.

But, like, nothing beats camera work in Zagreb (I think?) last year, when the camera guy obviously went to grab a bite or pee, and just left the camera centered on the middle. So, like, the paint guy would toss the lady, she’d fly out of the camera’s view, and we are left in suspense on the outcome of the element. Mom and I still have fits of laughter when we remember that, ‘landed, not landed? Who knows… shrodinger’s triple Throw).

Like I said before, my complaint is a small one. It won’t stop me from watching of course.

That second paragraph is classic. Haha
Luckily, ice hockey isn’t big in Croatia. That camera operator couldn’t handle 10 skaters on the rink at the same time.

 

[Lurker11]

A good comparison of the Valieva / Akateva free skates.

 

[Fried]

Or, you can become a judge if you think you can do better.

Maybe not such a bad idea after all. Giving ratings according to personal taste and even brazenly flouting the rules. I think I can still do it that way.

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www.sports.ru

 

[alexocfp]

Maybe not such a bad idea after all. Giving ratings according to personal taste and even brazenly flouting the rules. I think I can still do it that way.

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www.sports.ru

Good luck in your quest.
Here is some study material to get you on your way:

https://isu.org/figure-skating/rule.../24781-tphb-single-skating-2020-21-final/file

As for your article, there is an easy fix to that: just have the software make the deductions automatically. One fall and it won’t let you enter any value higher than 9.50, 2 false and it won’t let your enter a value higher than 8.75 or whatever.

People aren’t prefect. You can’t have such a complicated system without some automated help.

 

[yume]

Maybe not such a bad idea after all. Giving ratings according to personal taste and even brazenly flouting the rules. I think I can still do it that way.

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СÑдÑÑ Ðлена Фомина в наÑÑÑение пÑавил поÑÑавила ÑигÑÑиÑÑке Ðамиле Ðалиевой 9,75 балла за два компоненÑа в пÑоизволÑной пÑогÑамме на пеÑвом ÑÑапе ÐÑан-пÑи РоÑÑии в ÐоÑкве.

www.sports.ru

I'm curious about the score you would give to Valieva for that free skate.

 

[Fried]

I'm curious about the score you would give to Valieva for that free skate.

Well, basically my rating wouldn't matter at all, because under the Kosmos slogan given out, any rating lower than +5 would automatically be the worst and will therefore be deleted.

 

[AlexBreeze]

Points after first stage

Seniors

Men

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Dmitri Aliev	18	273.63
2	Gleb Lutfullin	16	258.40
3	Alexander Samarin	14	257.43
4	Mikhail Kolyada	12	237.22
5	Daniil Samsonov	10	222.35
6	Ivan Popov	8	195.15
7	Stepan Tartygin	6	166.30
8	Evgeni Zenkin	4	163.75
9	Kirill Kelmanov	2	161.16
10	Ivan Sobolev	1	160.09

Women

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Kamila Valieva	18	244.66
2	Sofia Akatieva	16	236.68
3	Anastasia Zinina	14	200.43
4	Alina Gorbacheva	12	189.34
5	Sofia Zakharova	10	189.31
6	Valeria Shulskaya	8	187.50
7	Polina Sviridenko	6	168.75
8	Anastasia Khakhyrtdinova	4	146.93
9	Margarita Kovaleva	2	133.31
10	Karima Askarova	1	126.46

Ice Dance

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Annabele Morozov/Devid Narizhny	18	199.57
2	Vasilisa Kaganovskaya/Valeri Angelopol	16	189.04
3	Yana Matveishina/Timofey Subbotin	14	135.05
4	Elizaveta Kirillova/Mark Chegodaev	12	120.68

Pairs

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Natalia Khabibullina/Ilya Knyazhuk	18	224.47
2	Evgenia Tarasova/Vladimir Morozov	16	221.07
3	Daria Boyarintseva/Roman Pleshkov	14	207.27
4	Viktoria Vasilieva/Roman Zaporozhets	12	179.17
5	Agniia Svinitskaya/Vladimir Sled	10	134.80

Juniors

Men

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Arseniy Fedotov	18	269.83
2	Nikolay Ugozhaev	16	238.66
3	Semion Soloviov	14	231.39
4	Timofey Stolyarenko	12	226.71
5	Nikita Sarnovskiy	10	224.95
6	Makar Puzin	8	219.24
7	Dmitri Shelkovnikov	6	217.60
8	Nikita Malyutin	4	204.09
9	Danil Fedosimov	2	203.06
10	Timofey Shelkovnikov	1	192.23

Women

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Sofia Titova	18	203.13
2	Lyubov Rubtsova	16	196.67
3	Anastasia Marasanova	14	183.77
4	Viktoria Barakhtina	12	180.79
5	Lidiya Pleskacheva	10	180.40
6	Viktoria Morozova	8	180.10
7	Lyudmila Fursova	6	171.50
8	Maria Agaeva	4	166.12
9	Anna Lyashenko	2	165.42
10	Alisa Shatohina	1	158.67

Ice Dance

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Sofia Leontieva/Daniil Gorelkin	18	174.07
2	Vasilisa Grigorieva/Evgeni Artyushchenko	16	158.67
3	Arina Gorshenina/Ilya Makarov	14	145.03
4	Uliana Ermakova/Artem Krylov	12	135.69
5	Aneta Kotsyubinskaya/Georgi Trubkin	10	129.87
6	Valeria Kamaeva/Lev Sergeev	8	129.10
7	Elizaveta Khort/Gordei Chitipakhovyan	6	126.28
8	Eva Plesovskikh/Mark Zheltyshev	4	120.72
9	Veronika Shulpina/Gleb Solovich	2	104.62
10	Anna Eliseeva/Mikhail Chislov	1	101.95

Pairs

Place	Name	Ranking points	Score
1	Ekaterina Chikmareva/Matvei Yanchenkov	18	205.80
2	Maria Dybkova/Alexei Khvalko	16	182.35
3	Maiia Shegai/Igor Shamshurov	14	178.19
4	Varvara Cheremnykh/Daniil Butenko	12	173.08
5	Varvara Smirnova/Alexei Belkin	10	138.05
6	Evgenia Loskutova/Andrei Shaderkov	8	134.48
7	Anna Kozhevnikova/Petr Alekseenko	6	133.68
8	Sofia Zemtsova/Karim Davletgareev	4	122.70