Great attention to detail, especially with her arms. Excellent. Amazing turnout and excellent flexibility. Not sure that this actual skating skills deserve this course she got. Also, issues with under rotation. She does seem to have a really neat personality though, and is very poised for her age that's for sure.Beautiful skating, Isabeau!
I love her attention to beauty, detail, and the way she does everything with such grace. Figure skating at its best!
Thank you. Skater should not get great marks for the quality of a jump when they have poor technique on the takeoff. Yes we know that is true when it comes to edges of course, but also if there's a major mule kick, or if the skater bends over and muscles the jump etc. I can't remember the earlier French skater, the one whose program was choreographed by papadakis, but watch her jumps. Clean edges. Nice Vault into the air. Rotation clearly finished before touching down. Those are the jumps that should be getting excellent marks.She was probably lucky that the lutz wasn't an edge call
This is the take off of the second toe jump
Then the rest
You will just have to trust that I didn't get on photoshop and manipulate it in such a way to show an underrotation. At best on the q for her. GOE of 0 or 1 is not correct for this combo when her jumps aren't the most beautiful as she bends over and slows down before she the jump, plus if it's not an underrotation or on the q, she's definitely cheated on the landing, then you have the not clear edge.
No question Haein Lee was underrotated, they were tough on quite a few.
If there's one area that she should be getting excellent goes and levels it's her spins. Absolutely
It's funny how many skaters take off from the Lutz on a flip Edge, yet do a flip on the Lutz edge. It's weird. In terms of skating skills, it's not so much just about using the right Edge take off on a jump. The reality is there are plenty of skaters who have excellent skating skills, like sakamoto, and yet can't get the edge right for those two jumps. Skating skills has to do more with their movement and utilization of the ice. So, deep knee bend, ability to generate speed with a very few crossovers, sitting just right on the blade, deep edges with a clear lean on the inside or outside edge and not skating on the flats. Absence of scratching along, that sort of thing. People tend to think that just because a skater can do a quad or something that that means they have excellent skating skills. No it doesn't. You can have someone with very poor skating skills who just happens to be able to jump and spin very quickly. But that doesn't mean they have actual good skating skills. That means they can jump and spin quickly
Except that wakaba has issues with jump rotation. Lutz was at least on the quarter, and the toe was a clear downgrade. A lot of the jump rotation is finished on the ice, but she has great edges and is so smooth that it's not always easy to tell.I’m not sure where this dislike for Isabeau comes from. Yes, she has a wonky triple triple. But, besides that element, she has a killer program. It has got so many highlights and little fine touches. I’m happy she is in first place.
Haein, that step sequence was fire
Rion - I really thought she’d be the breakout star this year. Last year she deserved to make the GP finals and just missed out as first alternate with her two bronze medals. She is my favourite skater and I will be rooting for redemption tomorrow.
Wakaba - it was going so well till that double. I’m going to worry about her tomorrow as she seems to lose steam in the second half.
Kimmy
I don't dislike her. She's not my type of skater. I would rather watch a strong powerful skater like Amber, Wakaba, etc. But she's obviously a very good skater. Ladies is my least favorite to begin with. Figure skating is an opinion.
Her Lutz was fine and the Toe was borderline q, could easily be called clean. Every woman has rotation issues on 3/3s because they aren't men. That's why they are allowed to cheat so much on their takeoffs. At least Wakaba actually does a decent pick on her jumps and has minimal pre-rotation compared to the rest of the top women who have ridiculous takeoffs comparitvely.
Gee, sexist much??
Petition to make this the official name
What?
If a woman/man has issues with 3-3 combos then she/he should be attempting 3-2 combos. Not get rewarded for a cheated 3-3 combo like someone who jumped a successful 3-3 combo. Like I have already said, Isabeau has had trouble landing 3 of her 6 jump elements in the short programs this season and let off the hook every time. If that's how they want to judge fine, but don't punish other girls for the same cheated jumps.
Did I hear right that Mark said it Wakaba has her own voice in the recording....?But that song seems to be the original Bishop Briggs?
I was talking about Wakaba.If a woman/man has issues with 3-3 combos then she/he should be attempting 3-2 combos. Not get rewarded for a cheated 3-3 combo like someone who jumped a successful 3-3 combo. Like I have already said, Isabeau has had trouble landing 3 of her 6 jump elements in the short programs this season and let off the hook every time. If that's how they want to judge fine, but don't punish other girls for the same cheated jumps.
She had an edge issue with the lutz then the toe jump is at best on the q. I have posted the photo evidence it could not be much clearer. Still getting 0 and 1 for that combo. Insane. What would she be getting for it if fully rotated and perfect edge take offs? 4s?
As it is Isabeau is already getting a good ride in terms of PCS. I quite like her programs and she has charisma. But on top of that her major jump errors are overlooked as well. I have no issue with her leading but it should be marginally ahead of Gubanova.
This is an issue of fairness.
Below are the 3/6 jump elements she failed to land properly. The judging is out of control.
Thank you for the explanation!Mark mentioned that Wakaba has her own voice in the recording for her programs, I was quite confused as her SP song just sounded like the original Bishop Briggs....
Turns out she just had a sound of her inhaling in the SP, but her FP will have her singing in a later part
Source: “I like to sing at the same level as everyone else, but I can’t produce a voice that others would want to hear (laughs).” Wakaba Higuchi about using her own voice recording for the programs (hope it's ok to link an fs-gossips article here)
And original article in Japanese: https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202311020001430.html#goog_rewarded
Except that wakaba has issues with jump rotation. Lutz was at least on the quarter, and the toe was a clear downgrade. A lot of the jump rotation is finished on the ice, but she has great edges and is so smooth that it's not always easy to tell.I’m not sure where this dislike for Isabeau comes from. Yes, she has a wonky triple triple. But, besides that element, she has a killer program. It has got so many highlights and little fine touches. I’m happy she is in first place.
Haein, that step sequence was fire
Rion - I really thought she’d be the breakout star this year. Last year she deserved to make the GP finals and just missed out as first alternate with her two bronze medals. She is my favourite skater and I will be rooting for redemption tomorrow.
Wakaba - it was going so well till that double. I’m going to worry about her tomorrow as she seems to lose steam in the second half.
Kimmy
I rechecked, and you're right, rotation wasn't as big as an issue as I recalled. Should have rechecked before posting.
Thanks for your comments. I suspected as much from Lee's step sequence which was getting tons of raves. I didn't find it that impressive, and yes, it looked particularly slow even on the screen. Also thank you for pointing out that levitos jumps need a bit of work. Everything else in here skating is very polished, but she totally breaks form for the jumps, which look nice on the exit, but horrible on the entry and take off.
