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Please post any ideas and criticisms of the new Code of Points system here. Both positives and negatives
Mathman said:Well, here's what I think so far.
The purpose of the new judging system was to defuse the public perception that the legitimate competive aspects of the sport are overborne by cheating, national bias and political deal-making. To this end, whatever plusses accrue to the new point system (for technical anyway) are thrown away by the huge negative of secret and anonymous judging.
Frankly, no one is buying it. At the end of the day a voice comes from the shadows: You won, you lost, now go away and don't ask any questions.
Mathman
Ptichka said:I am happy enough with the Skating Elements portion of the score. Sure it's open to some manipulation, but I think it's a huge improvement over 6.0.
Components, though, are a different story. I basically feel that they are handled the same way the second mark was under 6.0. A prime example is ice dancing during GPF - N&K got scores way above everyone else in every single element. Considering that they are at best slightly better than Denkova & Stavijski, this seems odd. Even if D&S had two bad nights, their skating skills and transitions, for instance, are still excellent; not way below N&K's.
Ptichka said:I am happy enough with the Skating Elements portion of the score. Sure it's open to some manipulation, but I think it's a huge improvement over 6.0.
The official reason according to Cinquanta is the same reason that we have a "secret ballot" in U.S. political elections. It makes it harder for the bad guys to influence voters by bribes and threats.Joesitz said:There probably is a reason for not showing them but even that is not given. There probably is a reason for not showing them, but unfortunately, the fans can only assume why not. -- Joe
Mathman said:The official reason according to Cinquanta is the same reason that we have a "secret ballot" in U.S. political elections. It makes it harder for the bad guys to influence voters by bribes and threats.
For instance, with secret judging the President of the French Federation would not have been able to force the French judge in Salt Lake City to go along with the supposed conspiracy that he had worked out with the Russians, because in the event he would not know whether Madam LeGougne had doublecrossed him or not.
So that's the theory (obvious baloney, if you ask me).
In practice, I do not see any way around that pesky second mark, whether under 6.0 or CoP. Unlike most sports (but in common with gymnastics, diving, dressage, dog breeding, cheerleading and bodybuilding) you are judged not only on what you do but also on how pretty you look doing it. It is hard to assign points in an objective way for this kind of aesthetic judgment, IMHO.
Mathman