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- Dec 13, 2005
Watch Joannie's toe-pick...it leaves the ice just about 1/2 of a rotation into the jump.
Yes, that's a proper toe loop. Not quite sure what you're saying...
Watch Joannie's toe-pick...it leaves the ice just about 1/2 of a rotation into the jump.
I think Akiko Suzuki is an inspiration to people everywhere. She suffered from an extremely difficult disease and is in remission. I have had numerous friends suffer from eating disorders and some recover and some do not. It is a disease that no medication can fix. Each day is a struggle for the sufferers. I love that Akiko has overcome this disease and is back skating at the elite level, and excelling no less. Negative comments about physical appearance contribute to the occurrence of eating disorders in the first place. I think Akiko is a beautiful person inside and out and we should applaud her for her inner strength at overcoming a debilitating disease. Talk about a person who obviously loves to skate. She oozes joy while she's performing.
I think Akiko Suzuki is an inspiration to people everywhere. She suffered from an extremely difficult disease and is in remission. I have had numerous friends suffer from eating disorders and some recover and some do not. It is a disease that no medication can fix. Each day is a struggle for the sufferers. I love that Akiko has overcome this disease and is back skating at the elite level, and excelling no less. Negative comments about physical appearance contribute to the occurrence of eating disorders in the first place. I think Akiko is a beautiful person inside and out and we should applaud her for her inner strength at overcoming a debilitating disease. Talk about a person who obviously loves to skate. She oozes joy while she's performing.
ITA! I love the way the corners of her mouth turn up when she smiles. Maybe she's one of those people who BECOME beautiful when they perform. I remember being shocked to find that the ballerina Suzanne Farrell off stage and out of makeup was quite ordinary looking. Onstage she was incomparable! There are many other examples. So I don't even know if the off-ice Akiko Suzuki is pretty, all I can say is that the skater Akiko Suzuki is adorable.I'm...one of those people who believe certain standards of beauty are objective (in our species.) Some men and women will be considered "attractive" across a wider set of societies, cultures, and individuals than other men and women; likewise, some men and women will be considered "ugly" more often.
However, I am frankly startled to hear someone thinks Akiko Suzuki is "homely". :scratch: The thought never crossed my mind. I think she's quite attractive and has well-proportioned features. Clear, even skin; large soft eyes; positive demeanor...
Weird!
Many different kinds of attractiveness does not necessarily imply subjectivity. Objective beauty may have a wider range than most individuals can perceive. I'd just like to help uphold the idea of objective truth.(Then again, I'm one of those people who believe there are many different ways in which people can be attractive. So yes, there is some subjectivity within broader, objective standards.)
Advertising-generated standards, I am quite sure of that. I remember when we had the history of the Aborigines at school, and the kids in my class just couldn't stop making fun of their faces - not because they are ugly, but because they are really different from the way the average German Hans and Liesel look. And throughout the history of mankind there were so many beauty standards that had nothing to do with what is hip at Miss Universe these days.or just the triumph of advertising-generated standards, which most of us and even many skaters wouldn't be able to live up to?
If there is something objective about beauty, then I think, it is also inherited. But I think that would only concern really disfigured people. Lots of chromosomal disorders are connected to facial disfigurement, when I had human genetics I always cringed, when the professor described the malformed faces of the different syndromes. It seemed like such a superficial way, but is of course important on the route to a diagnosis that ultimately is going to help the parents / child.
Yes, that's a proper toe loop. Not quite sure what you're saying...
I don't know how a philosopher would answer the question of objective beauty, but generally what I've read seems to suggest that symmetry of features, whether Asian, African, or Caucasian, is appreciated everywhere. For women, a long, slim neck seems to be universally admired, but I don't think it's a crucial element. An attractive smile with pretty teeth is certainly valued everywhere, whether lips are thin or full. Well-shaped cheekbones and thick hair (whether straight, curly, or African) also contribute.
I was saying exactly that. :agree:
If there is something objective about beauty, then I think, it is also inherited.
shwh08, one of the great things about this discussion is that, although physical appearance was mentioned, most people who weighed in said that they feel that Akiko looks just fine. I hadn't realized that she had suffered from an eating disorder until I saw that post, and that makes me even more impressed with her, because she has managed to pick herself up and keep going.
My philosophy, and I suspect many of the other posters here share it, is that beauty can be defined in a wide range of ways and includes many looks and combinations. Better yet, one of the greatest forms of beauty is poetry in motion...a trait just about every skater shares.
As I see how much Mirai has grown, I wouldn't think it the end of world if she struggles a little for a year or two.