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Who do you think should have been the medalists in major skating events for the women from 1992 to today. Here would be mine:
2010 Olympics:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Joannie Rochette (barely)
2009 Worlds:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Joannie Rochette
Miki's PCS were a joke.
2008 Worlds:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Yukari Nakano
Really nobody deserved it except sort of Nakano but her technik issues are too much to overlook. Kostner was a joke.
2007 Worlds:
Gold- Mao Asada
Silver- Yu Na Kim
Bronze- Miki Ando
Mao lost the gold not only by mistakes but some silly loopholes in COP, -3 in GOE on her combo as if she fell due to the single loop, some extreme losses of points on a couple slight URs or slightly two footed jumps in the LP. Miki Ando while much improved this year still is just a jumper compared to the other 2 and her jumps dont have the best quality really either.
2006 Olympics:
Gold- Shizuka Arawaka
Silver- Sasha Cohen
Bronze- Irina Slutskaya
Sasha should have been closer to Shizuka who was overmarked in the SP and Suguri should have been closer to Slutskaya. Cant really see changing any of the positions though.
2006 Worlds:
Gold- Kimmie Meissner
Silver- Fumie Suguri
Bronze- Sasha Cohen
I guess Kimmie deserved it but her scores particularly PCS were too high.
2005 Worlds:
Gold- Irina Slutskaya
Silver- Sasha Cohen
Bronze- Fumie Suguri
I thought Fumie's LP was way better than Kwan or Kostner honestly. I know she fell in the short but I woudl have had her ahead overall.
2004 Worlds:
Gold- Sasha Cohen
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Shizuka Arakawa
I had Kwan 2nd to Cohen in the short and 2nd to Shizuka in the long. Shizuka's short program was mediocre with not very well done elements and should have been 6th or 7th behind Cohen, Kwan, Ando, Kostner, Sebeysten, and maybe Suguri. On the other hand her spectacular LP was undermarked and should have had a row of 6.0s compared to Kwan and Cohen (even though Kwan was also quite good) and straight 1st places. Wierd judging overall on her. Cohen gets gold by the factored pionts since even though her LP was uninspired and quite shaky I cant see who deserved to place above her for 3rd in the LP. Maybe Suguri could be placed over Sasha in the LP?
2003 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Elena Sokolova
Bronze- Sasha Cohen
Sasha was screwed in qualifying, she should have won her pool IMO over Kwan who stumbled on a jump and Sokolova who jumped extremely well as she did all Worlds but nothing else. Fumie lucked out majorly to be in such a weak pool, she would have been destroyed by Kwan, Sokolova, or Cohen in the Q round with that performance. Fumie's SP wasnt that good with a shaky combination, weak layback, and other flaws, but Sasha fell in the short and should have been no higher than 5th. Sasha's artistry, spins (other than the one she fell on), and most things she did were so far superior to Sokolova though I might have placed her 2nd in the LP even with the 2 falls considering she also did a triple lutz-triple toe combo which was Sokolova's big edge on the others. Had she skated cleanly I would have placed her 1st in the LP over Kwan with that triple lutz-triple toe combo. I might have put Volchkova on the podium or atleast above Fumie too. Her jumps were the most beautiful in womens skating at the time, and she skated pretty well at these Worlds. If she done them all clean and done the triple lutz-triple toe in the short too I would have had her over Sokolova for sure since Sokolova was only jumps, and her jumps dont have the quality of Victoria.
2002 Olympics:
Gold- Irina Slutskaya
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Sarah Hughes
I felt Slutskaya should have won the SP which would have given her the gold overall even if Hughes was still 4th in the short. In reality though Hughes's SP was mediocre and should have been only 7th, she was held up majorly in the short and never should have won the gold even though she was the clearly rightful winner of the LP (under 6.0). Her LP unimpressed me but placed 2nd since Kwan fell. Sasha wasnt that good a skater yet IMO and wouldnt have even been in contention had the Olympics been outside the U.S. Although her SP was quite good.
2001 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Irina Slutskaya
Bronze- Maria Butyrskaya
Butyrskaya was screwed in the short program where she should have been atleast 3rd. That was the only reason Hughes was able to win the bronze.
2000 Worlds:
Gold- Maria Butyrskaya
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Irina Slutskaya
I had Butyrskaya 2nd in the LP instead of Slutskaya which would have given Maria the gold overall. The SP placings were correct IMO, as were the Q round placings.
1999 Worlds:
Gold- Maria Butyrskaya
Silver- Tatiana Malinina
Bronze- Anna Rechnio
Horrible judging IMO. Kwan was majorly gifted in the short program though had a very good long and IMO deserved 2nd in it. Rechnio was undermarked in both programs, and way undermarked in the short. Soldatova was overscored, she looked like a junior skater, and definitely benefited from that she was the golden up and comer of the Russian federation at the time (look what happened to her career when she changed countries).
Gusmeroli was technically sloppy by then.
1998 Olympics:
Gold- Tara Lipinski
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Maria Butysrkaya
I though Chen was overmarked technically in the LP. Her jumps and spins were so poor compared to the rest of the women by then, even when she completed them.
1998 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Maria Butyrskaya
Bronze- Laetita Hubert
My placings in the short were Kwan-Rechnio-Hubert-Liashenko-Slutskaya-Malinina- Butyrskaya. In the long were Kwan-Butyrskaya-Slutskaya-Hubert-Kwiatkowski-Rechnio
1997 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Irina Slutskaya
Bronze- Tara Lipinski
Tara didnt impress me at all at this point (she improved alot in 98). I thought her SP should have been 4th behind Gusmeroli, Czako, and Kwan (yes even with the step out). Her LP should have been 3rd behind Kwan and Slutskaya.
1996 Worlds:
Gold- Lu Chen
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Maria Butyrskaya
I though Chen was the clear winner. Her artistically was still far and away superior to Michelle at this point IMO even though Michelle had improved alot. And her jumps were better quality and she had more combinations, even if Kwan had an extra triple toe. I found Maria's skating technically weak except for the 98-2000 period, but her artistry was so superior to the other women battling for 3rd.
1995 Worlds:
Gold- Lu Chen
Silver- Surya Bonaly
Bronze- Nicole Bobek
I wouldnt have changed anything about the scoring except having Bonaly behind Kwan in the short.
1994 Olympics:
Gold- Nancy Kerrigan
Silver- Yuka Sato
Bronze- Lu Chen
My placings were short program: Kerrigan-Bonaly-Baiul-Chen-Sato-Witt-Rechnio-
Szewcenko and in the long: Sato-Kerrigan-Chen (or maybe Chen-Kerrigan, wouldnt matter to the overall final results either way)-Baiul-Bonaly-Szewcenko-Harding-Witt
1994 Worlds:
Gold- Yuka Sato
Silver- Surya Bonaly
Bronze- Marina Kiellmann
Bonaly made a fool of herself, she shouldnt have even been close to winning with that performance. Szewcenko was way overscored when she first emerged and Kiellmann with a clean triple lutz, landed triple flip, triple toe-triple toe, and more mature skating should have easily beaten her for the bronze even with the 2 falls near the end (one on a double axel which isnt that important anyway, and another jump which she replaced right after anyhow).
1993 Worlds:
Gold- Surya Bonaly
Silver- Lu Chen
Bronze- Oksana Baiul
Either Bonaly or Chen. No way Baiul.
1992 Olympics:
Gold- Kristi Yamaguchi
Silver- Midori Ito
Bronze- Nancy Kerrigan
1992 Worlds:
Gold- Kristi Yamuguchi
Silver- Lu Chen
Bronze- Laetitia Hubert
2010 Olympics:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Joannie Rochette (barely)
2009 Worlds:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Joannie Rochette
Miki's PCS were a joke.
2008 Worlds:
Gold- Yu Na Kim
Silver- Mao Asada
Bronze- Yukari Nakano
Really nobody deserved it except sort of Nakano but her technik issues are too much to overlook. Kostner was a joke.
2007 Worlds:
Gold- Mao Asada
Silver- Yu Na Kim
Bronze- Miki Ando
Mao lost the gold not only by mistakes but some silly loopholes in COP, -3 in GOE on her combo as if she fell due to the single loop, some extreme losses of points on a couple slight URs or slightly two footed jumps in the LP. Miki Ando while much improved this year still is just a jumper compared to the other 2 and her jumps dont have the best quality really either.
2006 Olympics:
Gold- Shizuka Arawaka
Silver- Sasha Cohen
Bronze- Irina Slutskaya
Sasha should have been closer to Shizuka who was overmarked in the SP and Suguri should have been closer to Slutskaya. Cant really see changing any of the positions though.
2006 Worlds:
Gold- Kimmie Meissner
Silver- Fumie Suguri
Bronze- Sasha Cohen
I guess Kimmie deserved it but her scores particularly PCS were too high.
2005 Worlds:
Gold- Irina Slutskaya
Silver- Sasha Cohen
Bronze- Fumie Suguri
I thought Fumie's LP was way better than Kwan or Kostner honestly. I know she fell in the short but I woudl have had her ahead overall.
2004 Worlds:
Gold- Sasha Cohen
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Shizuka Arakawa
I had Kwan 2nd to Cohen in the short and 2nd to Shizuka in the long. Shizuka's short program was mediocre with not very well done elements and should have been 6th or 7th behind Cohen, Kwan, Ando, Kostner, Sebeysten, and maybe Suguri. On the other hand her spectacular LP was undermarked and should have had a row of 6.0s compared to Kwan and Cohen (even though Kwan was also quite good) and straight 1st places. Wierd judging overall on her. Cohen gets gold by the factored pionts since even though her LP was uninspired and quite shaky I cant see who deserved to place above her for 3rd in the LP. Maybe Suguri could be placed over Sasha in the LP?
2003 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Elena Sokolova
Bronze- Sasha Cohen
Sasha was screwed in qualifying, she should have won her pool IMO over Kwan who stumbled on a jump and Sokolova who jumped extremely well as she did all Worlds but nothing else. Fumie lucked out majorly to be in such a weak pool, she would have been destroyed by Kwan, Sokolova, or Cohen in the Q round with that performance. Fumie's SP wasnt that good with a shaky combination, weak layback, and other flaws, but Sasha fell in the short and should have been no higher than 5th. Sasha's artistry, spins (other than the one she fell on), and most things she did were so far superior to Sokolova though I might have placed her 2nd in the LP even with the 2 falls considering she also did a triple lutz-triple toe combo which was Sokolova's big edge on the others. Had she skated cleanly I would have placed her 1st in the LP over Kwan with that triple lutz-triple toe combo. I might have put Volchkova on the podium or atleast above Fumie too. Her jumps were the most beautiful in womens skating at the time, and she skated pretty well at these Worlds. If she done them all clean and done the triple lutz-triple toe in the short too I would have had her over Sokolova for sure since Sokolova was only jumps, and her jumps dont have the quality of Victoria.
2002 Olympics:
Gold- Irina Slutskaya
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Sarah Hughes
I felt Slutskaya should have won the SP which would have given her the gold overall even if Hughes was still 4th in the short. In reality though Hughes's SP was mediocre and should have been only 7th, she was held up majorly in the short and never should have won the gold even though she was the clearly rightful winner of the LP (under 6.0). Her LP unimpressed me but placed 2nd since Kwan fell. Sasha wasnt that good a skater yet IMO and wouldnt have even been in contention had the Olympics been outside the U.S. Although her SP was quite good.
2001 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Irina Slutskaya
Bronze- Maria Butyrskaya
Butyrskaya was screwed in the short program where she should have been atleast 3rd. That was the only reason Hughes was able to win the bronze.
2000 Worlds:
Gold- Maria Butyrskaya
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Irina Slutskaya
I had Butyrskaya 2nd in the LP instead of Slutskaya which would have given Maria the gold overall. The SP placings were correct IMO, as were the Q round placings.
1999 Worlds:
Gold- Maria Butyrskaya
Silver- Tatiana Malinina
Bronze- Anna Rechnio
Horrible judging IMO. Kwan was majorly gifted in the short program though had a very good long and IMO deserved 2nd in it. Rechnio was undermarked in both programs, and way undermarked in the short. Soldatova was overscored, she looked like a junior skater, and definitely benefited from that she was the golden up and comer of the Russian federation at the time (look what happened to her career when she changed countries).
Gusmeroli was technically sloppy by then.
1998 Olympics:
Gold- Tara Lipinski
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Maria Butysrkaya
I though Chen was overmarked technically in the LP. Her jumps and spins were so poor compared to the rest of the women by then, even when she completed them.
1998 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Maria Butyrskaya
Bronze- Laetita Hubert
My placings in the short were Kwan-Rechnio-Hubert-Liashenko-Slutskaya-Malinina- Butyrskaya. In the long were Kwan-Butyrskaya-Slutskaya-Hubert-Kwiatkowski-Rechnio
1997 Worlds:
Gold- Michelle Kwan
Silver- Irina Slutskaya
Bronze- Tara Lipinski
Tara didnt impress me at all at this point (she improved alot in 98). I thought her SP should have been 4th behind Gusmeroli, Czako, and Kwan (yes even with the step out). Her LP should have been 3rd behind Kwan and Slutskaya.
1996 Worlds:
Gold- Lu Chen
Silver- Michelle Kwan
Bronze- Maria Butyrskaya
I though Chen was the clear winner. Her artistically was still far and away superior to Michelle at this point IMO even though Michelle had improved alot. And her jumps were better quality and she had more combinations, even if Kwan had an extra triple toe. I found Maria's skating technically weak except for the 98-2000 period, but her artistry was so superior to the other women battling for 3rd.
1995 Worlds:
Gold- Lu Chen
Silver- Surya Bonaly
Bronze- Nicole Bobek
I wouldnt have changed anything about the scoring except having Bonaly behind Kwan in the short.
1994 Olympics:
Gold- Nancy Kerrigan
Silver- Yuka Sato
Bronze- Lu Chen
My placings were short program: Kerrigan-Bonaly-Baiul-Chen-Sato-Witt-Rechnio-
Szewcenko and in the long: Sato-Kerrigan-Chen (or maybe Chen-Kerrigan, wouldnt matter to the overall final results either way)-Baiul-Bonaly-Szewcenko-Harding-Witt
1994 Worlds:
Gold- Yuka Sato
Silver- Surya Bonaly
Bronze- Marina Kiellmann
Bonaly made a fool of herself, she shouldnt have even been close to winning with that performance. Szewcenko was way overscored when she first emerged and Kiellmann with a clean triple lutz, landed triple flip, triple toe-triple toe, and more mature skating should have easily beaten her for the bronze even with the 2 falls near the end (one on a double axel which isnt that important anyway, and another jump which she replaced right after anyhow).
1993 Worlds:
Gold- Surya Bonaly
Silver- Lu Chen
Bronze- Oksana Baiul
Either Bonaly or Chen. No way Baiul.
1992 Olympics:
Gold- Kristi Yamaguchi
Silver- Midori Ito
Bronze- Nancy Kerrigan
1992 Worlds:
Gold- Kristi Yamuguchi
Silver- Lu Chen
Bronze- Laetitia Hubert