No judge has ever hugged a skater before? Ever ever ever?
Also, you are attacking the wrong person - namely ksir0816.
But then, you did say in another thread - did you not? - that you had never heard of Adelina before Sochi.... ?
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No judge has ever hugged a skater before? Ever ever ever?
Also, you are attacking the wrong person - namely ksir0816.
But then, you did say in another thread - did you not? - that you had never heard of Adelina before Sochi.... ?
I think what's most evident is the scores were a bit over inflated for everyone.
No judge has ever hugged a skater before? Ever ever ever?
You must be blind to the evidence that's out there. i dont know What u are watching. How is it possible that Adelina Scored 5.49 pts higher than Yuna with the mistakes in her FS performance. Can u explain to the Korean people - why is Adelina hugging Russian judge after her performance. NO Russian has explained the meaning of this. To me Adelina and the Russian judge are congratulating each other for stealing the gold medal from Yuna. No judge in any professional or olympic sport does this except in Sochi Russia.
It's new history in figure skating that a skater who had not just one title suddenly won OGM at her own country.
No judge has ever hugged a skater before? Ever ever ever?
I've been revisiting the protocols and a few things stand out to me.
1) While I believe Caro could be called the winner here, I've seen a lot of posters here agree but her scores shot up almost 20pts since Euros. I'm pretty sure it was the same program minus one fall. So my point is yes even if Caro had won it would seem everyone is benefitting from a more loosely called event.
Side bar- SO GLAD CARO GOT A MEDAL!
2) Everyone is harping on Yulia too for being over scored here but she got almost an identical score to Mao at GPF who fell on her first 3a and then over rotated her next with a two foot and step out with Shin Amano as the tech controller of all people. He is notoriously brutal if I'm not mistaken.
I think what's most evident is the scores were a bit over inflated for everyone. Adelina took full advantage of it while the vets left a few pts on the table. Graceful and stunning as they were. I also noticed Yuna had 4 10's in the PCS scores. Adelina had 0!!!
Is it true that Sotnikova had never won the title in senior international competiton except OGM??
It's new history in figure skating that a skater who had not just one title suddenly won OGM at her own country.
I've been revisiting the protocols and a few things stand out to me.
1) While I believe Caro could be called the winner here, I've seen a lot of posters here agree. The thing is her scores shot up almost 20pts since Euros in the FS too!! I'm pretty sure it was the same program minus one fall. So my point is yes even if Caro had won it would seem everyone is benefitting from a more loosely called event.
Side bar- SO GLAD CARO GOT A MEDAL!
2) Everyone is harping on Yulia too for being over scored here but she got almost an identical score to Mao at GPF who fell on her first 3a and then over rotated her next with a two foot and step out with Shin Amano as the tech controller of all people. He is notoriously brutal if I'm not mistaken. Granted that event was a splat feat but there was a lot of (e) and < all over the everyone's scores!!
I think what's most evident is the scores were a bit over inflated for everyone. Adelina took full advantage of it while the vets left a few pts on the table. Graceful and stunning as they were. I also noticed Yuna had 4 10's in the PCS scores. Adelina had 0!!!
Still…it sends the wrong message. What if it were the World Cup in soccer. One team wins on a controversial referee's call, and the referee in question immediately rushes over and starts high-fiving the victors.
I've actually had a feeling that the scores have been going up for... beginning last year maybe, at least with the men. Do you remember when the early 90s was a HUGE score for a man's SP? (And yes, I know about the second half bonus rule change - but that can't account for ALL the increase, can it?) Also, it seems to me that the judges have been handing out WRs like candy recently.... over several disciplines at least. (Except the ladies, actually.... ?) But that is just an impression, and maybe someone with a more... orderly mind could comment on that?
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I've been revisiting the protocols and a few things stand out to me.
1) While I believe Caro could be called the winner here, I've seen a lot of posters here agree. The thing is her scores shot up almost 20pts since Euros in the FS too!! I'm pretty sure it was the same program minus one fall. So my point is yes even if Caro had won it would seem everyone is benefitting from a more loosely called event.
Side bar- SO GLAD CARO GOT A MEDAL!
2) Everyone is harping on Yulia too for being over scored here but she got almost an identical score to Mao at GPF who fell on her first 3a and then over rotated her next with a two foot and step out with Shin Amano as the tech controller of all people. He is notoriously brutal if I'm not mistaken. Granted that event was a splat feat but there was a lot of (e) and < all over the everyone's scores!!
I think what's most evident is the scores were a bit over inflated for everyone. Adelina took full advantage of it while the vets left a few pts on the table. Graceful and stunning as they were. I also noticed Yuna had 4 10's in the PCS scores. Adelina had 0!!!
Is it true that Sotnikova had never won the title in senior international competiton except OGM??
It's new history in figure skating that a skater who had not just one title suddenly won OGM at her own country.
Yeah I don't find that whole "the judge hugged her" argument to hold much water. IDK if anybody realized it but Adelina was bear-hugging anyone who would stand still long enough that night...
Do u ever see a player hug a referee in Soccer, NBA,NFL, Hockey after winning a championship. I have NEVER seen this. If u do... we call this conspiracy.
Do u ever see a player hug a referee in Soccer, NBA,NFL, Hockey after winning a championship. I have NEVER seen this. If u do... we call this conspiracy.
i did put in a request to rename this thread to the judging controversy thread, as evidence for an actual conspiracy are yet to be found. while i do believe a lot of the russian judges and tech panel had it in their minds to give high scores/ignore flutz, ur, general skating skill, etc., i've yet to see any evidence of an actual conspiracy plot. that might be a fine line, but a line regardless. given the scoring of the judges and what most skaters seem to consider to be very generous/inflated scores, it just seems more along the lines of overall biased judging rather than some sort of plot.
Still…it sends the wrong message. What if it were the World Cup in soccer. One team wins on a controversial referee's call, and the referee in question immediately rushes over and starts high-fiving the victors.