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It is same judge. Do you really know about figure skating??
you didnt know that it is all same judge .....wow...
That is absolutely incorrect. The judges are randomized.
It is same judge. Do you really know about figure skating??
you didnt know that it is all same judge .....wow...
That is absolutely incorrect. The judges are randomized.
It is same judge. Do you really know about figure skating??
you didnt know that it is all same judge .....wow...
In an ideal world, which is to say a world without the ISU as we know of, the results would be voided based on conflict of interest or other procedural impropriety alone. Another problem is the fans do not have any legal standing to challenge the judging in any formal way.going back to a thought earlier, as much as i hate it - is there any way to PROVE beyond reasonable doubt that there was cheating/planned inflated scoring by the judges? We have evidence, but not PROOF. i.e., a judge's confession, e-mail/text exchanges, etc. what PROOF can we gather?
It may seem like I'm in it for Yuna from past posts but I really wouldn't "mind" Carolina winning - she just doesn't come up because she medaled bronze, but had it been silver all of this would be about Adelina vs Carolina. All I want is for the scoring to be appropriate and fair.
I mentioned before, literally everyone I've spoken with that isn't interested in figure skating simply assumes cheating went on. It's just not good for figure skating. I'll go as far as to say it would have been better for the figure skating world if Yuna had won.
in protocol, the judges number is fixed. Please.
you even lie over the fact.
Seriously?
In an ideal world, which is to say a world without the ISU as we know of, the results would be voided based on conflict of interest or other procedural impropriety alone. Another problem is the fans do not have any legal standing to challenge the judging in any formal way.
Seriously?
Please, just stop feeding trolls. It's like talking to a wall.
wow. you mean seriously???
Ever since new judging system, It is same judge. If no.1 judges on Sot.'s protocol, It is same to yuNa and all the others.
you didnt know that and you watch figure skating and protocol?? for god sake
wow. you mean seriously???
Ever since new judging system, It is same judge. If no.1 judges on Sot.'s protocol, It is same to yuNa and all the others.
you didnt know that and you watch figure skating and protocol?? for god sake
I understand If Russian judge just hugged Sot. BUT what about the judge from Finland???
Lol.
That's not true. The judges are randomized. You can't compare No. 1 judge for Adelina for No. 1 judge for Yuna.
The only case where they might be the same is if they are randomized as such. But there's no way of knowing that either.
However, it is the same judge for each column for each skater's protocal. So the scores in column one is from the same judge and the scores in column two is from a second judge, etc. etc.
It's as simple as composing a panel that is not geographically slanted (in this case nearly 50% eastern bloc) with people with no known conflict of interest and have them reevalute the event based on videos. No one is talking about an unattainable goal of 100% neutrality. But, eliminating only very obvious risks for bias.Out of curiosity who then determines the rest of the events that will inevitably be deemed to be voided under such policy. Who is neutral enough to do this? Or do you propose just someone who agrees with you?
No. it is true.
Following each segment a printout "Judges' Details for each Skater",
which indicates the Base Values of all the elements and the GOE and
Points for the Program Components from every Judge will be issued.
For ISU Championships, Olympic Winter Games, Senior Grand Prix
of Figure Skating Events and Final, the Judges’ scores are listed in a
random sequence without any reference to specific Judges’ names
(anonymity)
That's not true. The judges are randomized. You can't compare No. 1 judge for Adelina for No. 1 judge for Yuna.
The only case where they might be the same is if they are randomized as such. But there's no way of knowing that either.
However, it is the same judge for each column for each skater's protocal. So the scores in column one is from the same judge and the scores in column two is from a second judge, etc. etc.
in protocol, the judges number is fixed. Please.
you even lie over the fact.
I would tend to agree with you normally on this subject. But, the quote you provided is rather ambiguous. Based on that quote, one wouldn't know whether the random sequence is created once and for all and remains as it is throughout the protocol for all skaters, or it is randomized again and again for each skater.